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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. medical

  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  The WTS/JWorg likes to convey the impression publicly that they are law abiding citizens who obey the law. This is a fallacy - they only obey the law if and when that law agrees with their objectives. And only then.

  The org issued a letter to elders that gave advice on "how parents can protect their children from the misuse of blood". The letter concludes with this advice to parents:

  If a court order is issued despite one's best efforts, continue to ask the physician not to transfuse and to urge that no blood alternative treatments be utilized.

  In other words, use the law to demand that no blood alternatives be used, but if things don't go your way in court, continue to defy the law and do things the way that the WTS/Org tells you to behave. Demand no blood alternatives. Always. Stand your ground. Disobey court orders. Demand alternatives.

  This court case in Mexico is entirely scripted and directed by the WTS/Org. The JW parent and child are only pawns in the WTS' deadly game. They are only following the WTS directives to demand no blood alternatives.
  
  
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  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

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  amicabl: 120 years ago heart problems were practically Unknown.

  Well, just because something was "practically Unknown" does not mean that it didn't exist. What the 1900s saw was an increase in interest in heart disease and an increase in the diagnosing of heart disease.

  Heart disease has been around for a long time:

  Egyptian mummies, some 3,500 years old, had evidence of heart disease — specifically atherosclerosis, which narrows the arteries. Pharaoh Merenptah, who died in the year 1203 BCE, was plagued by atherosclerosis. Nine of the 16 other mummies studied also had evidence of the disease.

  And:

  To say exactly when civilization first became aware of coronary artery disease, also known as artery narrowing, is difficult. However, it’s known that Leonardo da Vinci (1452–1519) investigated coronary arteries.
  William Harvey (1578–1657) — physician to King Charles I — is credited with discovering that the blood moves from the right ventricle of the heart through the lung and into the aorta, then the peripheral vessels, and back into the lung.
  Later, Friedrich Hoffmann (1660–1742), chief professor of cardiology at the University of Halle, noted that coronary heart disease started in the “reduced passage of the blood within the coronary arteries.”

  more here at this link: https://www.healthline.com/health/heart-disease/history#2
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  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

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  amicabl: I can remember my father retiring at 57 with angina and drastically changing his diet with the help of a naturopath, regaining his health and living pain free to 75.

  Amicabl, you seem to have a romanticized (and incorrect) view of the past. You have offered up your father's experience as 'proof' of what good, healthy living can do. And yet, you fail to acknowledge that his age of 57 is well past the age of life expectancy 120 years ago.

  120 years ago, in that age that you think was so healthy and wonderful, an adult male's life expectancy hovered somewhere around 30 to 40 years of age. 120 years ago, your father likely wouldn't have made it to 57.

  https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy/

  Of course, life expectancy ages have risen dramatically in this past century simply because of the decrease in maternal and infant mortality rates. Babies and women are living longer.

  
  
  
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  Anyone remember LP album circa 68 with Awake on back cover?

  by cabasilas in

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  2. friends

  i have a memory of some rock artist of the 60s placing a pic of herself and some guy in bed and her reading an awake magazine on the back cover.

  it could have been "is time running out for mankind" or something like that.

  anyone remember?

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  thank you!

  Geoff and Maria Muldaur

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHJdBoC5ks8
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  Anyone remember LP album circa 68 with Awake on back cover?

  by cabasilas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a memory of some rock artist of the 60s placing a pic of herself and some guy in bed and her reading an awake magazine on the back cover.

  it could have been "is time running out for mankind" or something like that.

  anyone remember?

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  .Yes! I remember it. But I can't remember the name of the artist!

  Damn. I can see the album cover but not the name and yes, on a bed with the Awake magazine...
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  YPA change of picture

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anybody got any idea why the cover picture on the young people ask book was changed?

  they removed the picture of the boy bottom right & superimposed a different head.

  maybe the guy got dfd or maybe it was to change it to an asian guy rather than 2 caucasians?

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  And then there is this one:

  

  and another one the same as fastJehu posted:

  
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  Russia - Who Will Get the Property of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.interessant.ru/politics/komu-dostanietsia-imushchie.

  who will get the property of jehovah's witnesses?.

  the sect "jehovah's witnesses", recognized as an extremist organization and banned in russia, owned real estate worth 4 billion rubles.

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  Wonder: The first mayor of St. Petersburg Anatoly Sobchak played a major role in promoting "Jehovah's Witnesses".
  Sobchaks daughter is a famous russian TV-moderater, actress, jurist, policical activist and IT-girl.

  Ksenia Sobchak has announced her candidacy for president:

  https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/what-is-behind-ksenia-sobchak-against-all-bid-for-the-presidency-59319
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  One Question to ask any JW that will blow their end times out of the water

  by maccauk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ask any jw this one question.

  are there any apostles from the 1st century still walking the earth alive today ?.

  100% will say there are no apostles from the 1st century alive today.

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  maccauk: the 70ad event is a recorded historical fact

  A historical fact - of what? The "second coming"?

  pffft
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  Russian Supreme Court - Parental rights to be denied those who involve their children in sects, extremist or terrorist organizations

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. friends

  the children of russian jehovah's witnesses face removal from their family if their parents continue to indoctrinate the children and engage them in religious activity.*.

  *not yet in force but soon to be.

  https://rg.ru/2017/10/17/verhovnyj-sud-rasskazal-za-chto-mozhno-lishat-roditelskih-prav.html.

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  The children of Russian Jehovah's Witnesses face removal from their family if their parents continue to indoctrinate the children and engage them in religious activity.*

  *not yet in force but soon to be

  https://rg.ru/2017/10/17/verhovnyj-sud-rasskazal-za-chto-mozhno-lishat-roditelskih-prav.html

  (article is in Russian - what follows is a Google translation)

  The Supreme Court explained what can be deprived of parental rights

  The grounds for depriving parental rights is the involvement of children in sects, extremist or terrorist organizations. This was told in the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation.

  As reported by the TASS , the plenum of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation prepared a relevant resolution "On the practice of the courts applying legislation in the resolution of disputes related to the restriction or deprivation of parental rights."

  According to the document, it is about involving children in the activities of a public, religious association or other organization in relation to which there is a legally binding decision of the court to liquidate or ban activities, according to the laws "On Freedom of Conscience and Religious Associations", "On Countering Extremist Activity "and" On Countering Terrorism. "

  The Plenum in general supported the project, but sent it for revision so that several comments were taken into account.

  Also, the court developed recommendations to judges on appealing decisions on the removal of children from their parents. So, the poverty of the family can not be grounds for the child's withdrawal. If parents bring up children in good faith, take care of them, create the necessary conditions for the development of the child, problems with money will not be enough for the child to be taken away by the guardianship authorities.

  The Supreme Court stressed that you can take the child if there is "an immediate threat to his life or health."

  Also, anyone who is not the child's parents, or assigned to act as guardian of the child, can be fined and/or detained for involving minors in religious activities:

  https://www.zonazakona.ru/law/projects/art/231/
  

  Article 5.26.8. Involving minors in religious activities. Involving minors in religious activities, including by engaging in religious activities and other religious activities, in the distribution of printed, audio-visual publications and other items of religious significance to the propagation of any creed or in any other form without the consent of parents or persons replacing them, entails an administrative arrest for a period of ten to fifteen days (in the area of ​​the counter-terrorist operation - up to thirty days), the imposition of an administrative fine of legal entities - from eight hundred to nine hundred times the minimum wage.
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  Naming Infinity: A True Story of Religious Mysticism and Mathematical Creativity

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the time that the silver sword, the jw bible, was being examined in the russian courts as to whether or not it was going to be recognized as a "real bible" or be declared extremist (which it was), i did some research for historical context, trying to get a better understanding of the social environment that would be evaluating the jw bible.. the most crucial piece of information that i was interested in expanding and tracking down was how the jws' use of 'the divine name' in the bible would be perceived in russian culture.. i started from the premise that the act of naming denoted ownership.

  and i was interested in how that act would be interpreted against the backdrop of orthodoxy in russia, given that russian orthodoxy has had its own historical and controversial schisms over the rituals and interpretations of "the divine".

  even though we live in the 21st century and this drama is played out in front of us, how it is scripted is based on centuries of belief and ritual that are not present in the birthplace of the jworg.. i also thought that the org's habit of claiming divine favor based on "knowing" god's name would not play out well against the history and inherent religious biases that run deep within russian culture and so i wanted to know how the act of naming god might be viewed in today's culture.. anyways.

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  It is a super interesting book, Cimarrona.

  The book reveals much about the world of the intellectuals and monks/priests inside post-Revolution Russia - how they did or did not survive, how they continued their studies and teaching professions - and how so many of those gifted and learned people were eliminated, never to be heard of again.

  The decade(s) following the Revolution of 1917 is known as the years of "godlessness". Those were the years in which the Soviet propaganda was directed toward the elimination of religion, and they were also the years that thousands of Orthodox priests lost their lives.

  I read another book about Russian history recently that dovetails somewhat into the same years that "Naming Infinity" deals with - primarily the post-revolution years and into the Stalin era. This book, too, deals with religion in Russia, or rather, the lack of religion in Russia during its communist years.

  "Godless at the Workbench" is another super interesting read except it is not available in digital format. I bought a hard copy. It joins my favorite book collection.

  

  This publication documents the exhibition of illustrated journals (by famous Soviet artists), posters, archival photographs and films testifying to the Soviet anti-religious campaigns of 1918-1939. Because religion in the Russian empire had been one of the main markers of social identity, these campaigns (which heavily relied on visual propaganda) were determinant in the creation of a Soviet identity divorced from pre-revolutionary culture. Primarily, Godless at the Workbench explored the link between visual culture and the development of Soviet identity, through the visual materials produced for the anti-religious campaigns, or documentation of the campaigns. This exhibition was presented at Dunlop Art Gallery from January 17 to March 7, 2004.
  Curator: Guest Curator Dr. Annie Gérin
  Description: 169 pages, hard cover, 37 black and white, 39 colour images
  Essay: Dr. Annie Gérin
  ISBN: 1-894882-09-1

  The essay by Dr. Gerin is excellent and I did find some of the images from the book posted online.