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  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

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  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

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  amicabl: Common knowledge

  Well, if you are going on that premise...that "common knowledge" is accurate, I dunno what to say, especially when this thread is about science.

  Because, when I examine your observations about a 19th century cemetery that you visited, it becomes apparent that your "common" knowledge arises from your myopic view of the world that didn't allow you to observe the large number of maternal deaths that cemeteries of that age "commonly" hold.

  Skewed statistics? Yes, your interpretations and observations are skewed. You leave out women in your observations.
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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. medical

  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  konceptual: it is an horrendous policy with more holes that sieve

  Yes, it is a horrendous policy. But, it is a policy that delivers guinea pigs to a niche market of noblood alternatives.

  The world of bloodless medicine, AKA noblood alternatives, owes its existence to the private investment of JWs.*

  *reference available...need more coffee to go look for it. If anyone wants this reference, let me know - I have posted it before
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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  OrphanCrow

  The WTS/JWorg likes to convey the impression publicly that they are law abiding citizens who obey the law. This is a fallacy - they only obey the law if and when that law agrees with their objectives. And only then.

  The org issued a letter to elders that gave advice on "how parents can protect their children from the misuse of blood". The letter concludes with this advice to parents:

  If a court order is issued despite one's best efforts, continue to ask the physician not to transfuse and to urge that no blood alternative treatments be utilized.

  In other words, use the law to demand that no blood alternatives be used, but if things don't go your way in court, continue to defy the law and do things the way that the WTS/Org tells you to behave. Demand no blood alternatives. Always. Stand your ground. Disobey court orders. Demand alternatives.

  This court case in Mexico is entirely scripted and directed by the WTS/Org. The JW parent and child are only pawns in the WTS' deadly game. They are only following the WTS directives to demand no blood alternatives.
  
  
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  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

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  amicabl: 120 years ago heart problems were practically Unknown.

  Well, just because something was "practically Unknown" does not mean that it didn't exist. What the 1900s saw was an increase in interest in heart disease and an increase in the diagnosing of heart disease.

  Heart disease has been around for a long time:

  Egyptian mummies, some 3,500 years old, had evidence of heart disease — specifically atherosclerosis, which narrows the arteries. Pharaoh Merenptah, who died in the year 1203 BCE, was plagued by atherosclerosis. Nine of the 16 other mummies studied also had evidence of the disease.

  And:

  To say exactly when civilization first became aware of coronary artery disease, also known as artery narrowing, is difficult. However, it’s known that Leonardo da Vinci (1452–1519) investigated coronary arteries.
  William Harvey (1578–1657) — physician to King Charles I — is credited with discovering that the blood moves from the right ventricle of the heart through the lung and into the aorta, then the peripheral vessels, and back into the lung.
  Later, Friedrich Hoffmann (1660–1742), chief professor of cardiology at the University of Halle, noted that coronary heart disease started in the “reduced passage of the blood within the coronary arteries.”

  more here at this link: https://www.healthline.com/health/heart-disease/history#2
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  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

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  amicabl: I can remember my father retiring at 57 with angina and drastically changing his diet with the help of a naturopath, regaining his health and living pain free to 75.

  Amicabl, you seem to have a romanticized (and incorrect) view of the past. You have offered up your father's experience as 'proof' of what good, healthy living can do. And yet, you fail to acknowledge that his age of 57 is well past the age of life expectancy 120 years ago.

  120 years ago, in that age that you think was so healthy and wonderful, an adult male's life expectancy hovered somewhere around 30 to 40 years of age. 120 years ago, your father likely wouldn't have made it to 57.

  https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy/

  Of course, life expectancy ages have risen dramatically in this past century simply because of the decrease in maternal and infant mortality rates. Babies and women are living longer.

  
  
  
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  Anyone remember LP album circa 68 with Awake on back cover?

  by cabasilas in

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  i have a memory of some rock artist of the 60s placing a pic of herself and some guy in bed and her reading an awake magazine on the back cover.

  it could have been "is time running out for mankind" or something like that.

  anyone remember?

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  thank you!

  Geoff and Maria Muldaur

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHJdBoC5ks8
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  Anyone remember LP album circa 68 with Awake on back cover?

  by cabasilas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a memory of some rock artist of the 60s placing a pic of herself and some guy in bed and her reading an awake magazine on the back cover.

  it could have been "is time running out for mankind" or something like that.

  anyone remember?

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  .Yes! I remember it. But I can't remember the name of the artist!

  Damn. I can see the album cover but not the name and yes, on a bed with the Awake magazine...
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  YPA change of picture

  by dozy in

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  anybody got any idea why the cover picture on the young people ask book was changed?

  they removed the picture of the boy bottom right & superimposed a different head.

  maybe the guy got dfd or maybe it was to change it to an asian guy rather than 2 caucasians?

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  OrphanCrow

  And then there is this one:

  

  and another one the same as fastJehu posted:

  
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  Russia - Who Will Get the Property of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.interessant.ru/politics/komu-dostanietsia-imushchie.

  who will get the property of jehovah's witnesses?.

  the sect "jehovah's witnesses", recognized as an extremist organization and banned in russia, owned real estate worth 4 billion rubles.

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  Wonder: The first mayor of St. Petersburg Anatoly Sobchak played a major role in promoting "Jehovah's Witnesses".
  Sobchaks daughter is a famous russian TV-moderater, actress, jurist, policical activist and IT-girl.

  Ksenia Sobchak has announced her candidacy for president:

  https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/what-is-behind-ksenia-sobchak-against-all-bid-for-the-presidency-59319
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  One Question to ask any JW that will blow their end times out of the water

  by maccauk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ask any jw this one question.

  are there any apostles from the 1st century still walking the earth alive today ?.

  100% will say there are no apostles from the 1st century alive today.

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  maccauk: the 70ad event is a recorded historical fact

  A historical fact - of what? The "second coming"?

  pffft