OrphanCrow

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  Secret Societies involved at the very top of the Org

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  are all the gb members past and present, part of skulls and bones and other masonic secret societies?

  we know the first few top brass were, like br rutherford and br russel.. they all have several expensive watches.

  like literally more than one for everyday of the week, rolex and omega, where did they come from?

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  You don't have to be a member of a secret society to be an asshole.

  One is not evidence of the other
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  New JWism in April broadcast?

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone know what it means to be "securely wrapped up in the bag of life"?

  is this a new special wt terminology?

  they said it or a slight variant of it, several times in the broadcast, perhaps 3?

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  Was 1 Samuel 25:29 used as a scripture?

  NWT:
  When someone rises up to pursue you and seeks your life, the life of my lord will be wrapped securely in the bag of life with Jehovah your God, but the lives of your enemies he will hurl away like stones from a sling

  Huh. It sounds like the GB is a little worried about something

  *most other translations use "bundle of the living" instead of "bag" (except for one...that uses God's "treasure pouch"...which sounds a bit obscene)

  http://biblehub.com/1_samuel/25-29.htm
  

  **ha! Morph...you beat me to it
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  Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

  in one sentence tell why you left the org.

  not 2 sentences.

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  I hated the restrictions, the control and the hypocrisy.
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  O neg universal doner

  by bikerchic in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  so i donate blood because i can.

  i donate every 4 months when the bloodmobile comes to my place of work.

  i know it helps.. what about you, do you donate blood?

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  Awesome

  I haven't donated for several years but I have a few times in the past

  I give back when I can because someone gave their blood so I could live

  A blood transfusion saved my life
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  Apostrophe

  by compound complex in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  the lyrics to the song, "twinkle, twinkle, little star," are an example of apostrophe (not an apostrophe).

  learn something new every day!.

  twinkle, twinkle, little star, how i wonder what you are.

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  OrphanCrow

  (as per our prior discussion concerning "apostrophe", Coco)

  Apostrophe as an utterance:

  The orator "turns away" from the audience and addresses an inaminate object - as in..."O death" or..."O God", etc

  Apostrophe in this sense is a "turning away"

  Apostrophe as a mark:

  The symbol ' stands in for that which is not said. It signifies that part of speech which is "left out". That which is not uttered. Left out, not communicated by anything other than a "mark"

  Which then leads, logically, to "apostate"

  The one who has "turned away". The one who has no utterance.

  "Turned away" and "left out"

  We are apostrophes. We are marked.
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  Apostrophe

  by compound complex in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  the lyrics to the song, "twinkle, twinkle, little star," are an example of apostrophe (not an apostrophe).

  learn something new every day!.

  twinkle, twinkle, little star, how i wonder what you are.

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  OrphanCrow

  The Bible's most famous/wellknown apostrophe:

  Matthew 6:9-13
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  Current/recent Elders: WT Legal phone hours?

  by Open mind in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  when i was serving as an elder about 10 years ago, the wt legal department's main number could not be reached on the weekends.

  does anyone know if they have since made themselves available to elders 24/7?.

  the most recent instructions i could find (october 1, 2012 letter to boe) still say the first thing elders are to do when becoming aware of an accusation of child sexual abuse is to "immediately" call watchtower legal.

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  OpenMind: the first thing elders are to do when becoming aware of an accusation of child sexual abuse is to "immediately" call Watchtower legal

  The phone call to Bethel has nothing at all to do with the how to help the victim. The phone call establishes a client-attorney relationship between the org lawyers and the elders.

  The purpose is largely to set up a situation where any information shared will fall under client-attorney privilege and therefore be confidential

  The elders are being told to lawyer up
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  If you're expecting a mass exodus anytime soon, FORGET ABOUT IT!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have to make a token appearance at the k.h.

  once a month or so and this week went to a different hall.

  and believe me they are all still totally oblivious to all the negative news about the pedophiles and shunning that have come under scrutiny by the media and other governments.

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  Slim: Have you got any evidence that Watchtower has made money from their blood policy or literacy programme?

  Oh geez. Here we go again.

  The minute something is proposed that doesn't fit in someone's world view, they jump up and down and say "evidence! evidence!". Of course there is no evidence the org has made money from those things. As has been said on here over and over and over again...the org's finances are not transparent.

  We know that the org is involved in both blood management and literacy programming. That is without question. That evidence has been presented many times over on this forum.

  When a corporation invests in something, that investment indicates a money making opportunity and there is no question that the org has invested in patient blood management. No question. Over the years, they have spent lot$$$$ of money promoting their brand of medicine. At least, until they turned that activity over to prominent bloodless JWs and the SABM. And as well, they have invested in literacy. Even got awards for it.

  How much has the org made? No idea. Have they profited? How much? Again, no idea.

  Open the books. I will answer your question.
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  If you're expecting a mass exodus anytime soon, FORGET ABOUT IT!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have to make a token appearance at the k.h.

  once a month or so and this week went to a different hall.

  and believe me they are all still totally oblivious to all the negative news about the pedophiles and shunning that have come under scrutiny by the media and other governments.

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  Inferences will get you into all sorts of trouble, Slim.

  Yes I said that. And I inferred that the "true rich believers" were the ones from developed, Western countries. It was only after I proposed that scenario that I spoke about 3rd world countries.

  It is the perfect 21st C religion - based on a model of colonialism. Keep all the loyal ones in developed countries who will donate lot$ of money to keep their charitable contribution level to a taxed out maximum. What the charitable drive is for is those 3rd world countries that I mentioned. Easy peasy - get rid of excess baggage and dead weight in the Western world, keep them uninformed about what is really going on with the org's financial health and what is happening globally, get rid of dead weight real estate, disfellowship the rabble rousers, and go mainly to an online charity type model. And sit on all the cash they have already.

  And...stay active in all those countries that are well-poised for pushing patient blood management. And those countries are ideal for dumping off all the literature that the org still prints by engaging in literacy programs.

  Does the org need to grow? Not really - it only needs to grow on the top end to be successful. Why do you think the anointed number has been rising? Sure, there are those 'anointed' peons who are deluded into thinking that they are special, but what about if there is a growing "top class" membership? What if the sipping of the wine goes along with the growth of the upper $lice?

  Is it a master plan? Who knows? it doesn't really matter. But we do know that the org has made some major changes in the past decade or so that has resulted in what we see now.
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  If you're expecting a mass exodus anytime soon, FORGET ABOUT IT!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have to make a token appearance at the k.h.

  once a month or so and this week went to a different hall.

  and believe me they are all still totally oblivious to all the negative news about the pedophiles and shunning that have come under scrutiny by the media and other governments.

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  slim: OrphanCrow I think you are right that the GB don't want growth in third world countries

  Slim, I didn't say that.

  In "fact", I said the exact opposite