Example of sensitive data – should I be worried?

by Fay Dehr in

### here's a link to a high-quality version of the above form: https://1drv.ms/u/s!amcrvjcxi6m6a2mdhysjdll3m00 ###.

the attached image is the rear of form a-27; this is just example of many forms that contain personal data.

i’d like to know: should i be worried?.

OrphanCrow

Morph: But nobody has voiced that. Its literally been concerns over “data breeches” and one truly insanly remark about killing those who claim to be anointed. Its beyond paranoid. I lack words to describe how utterly stupid some of this is.... again, i want to be clear, its worth discussing the implications

No, they haven't voiced it. Most of them don't even know why it makes them feel vulnerable. Deep seated and deeply held fears manifest themselves in all sorts of nutty behavior and responses that do seem stupid.

Of course it is stupid - it has been bred into them. Distrust, ramped up fear and paranoia of anyone and anything that isn't part of their insular world is part and parcel of being a JW. It is what their cult is built on.

It isn't as though the JW mantra encourages rational thought and behavior, after all. Irrationality breeds irrationality

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Example of sensitive data – should I be worried?

by Fay Dehr in

### here's a link to a high-quality version of the above form: https://1drv.ms/u/s!amcrvjcxi6m6a2mdhysjdll3m00 ###.

the attached image is the rear of form a-27; this is just example of many forms that contain personal data.

i’d like to know: should i be worried?.

OrphanCrow

Morph: Its not private. Its not confidential. Its nothing.

Yes, pretty much all that information is far from private. It is really, really difficult to stay under the radar in today's world. If someone wants that information, most of it is accessible somewhere.*

I am thinking that the paranoia that people are feeling over this isn't so much those issues - what could be the concern is that this information identifies them as Jehovah's Witnesses. They don't want other people/institutions or the government knowing that they are JWs.

Being officially identified as a Jehovah's Witness makes them feel vulnerable. They have pictures of bunkers in their brains.

It isn't just that they don't trust the WT/org. They distrust everybody else.

*edit to add - what I have found is that is has become increasing difficult to connect actual people with their JW affiliation. It used to be easy. There are individuals who are fairly prominent in certain industries/careers who have learned to guard their JW identity

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Your Favorite Plays on Words

by compound complex in

greetings, fellow word lovers:.

please add your favorite, clever smithing of words.. ****************************.

time flies like an arrow and fruit flies like a banana..

OrphanCrow

Well. I learned a new word today.

"Wellerism"

I found it when I was looking up the origin of the often used saying "...a blind man said "I see" to the deaf man..." or something like that.

https://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/22/messages/780.html

Wellerism \WEH-luh-rih-zum\ noun
: an expression of comparison comprising a usually well-known quotation followed by a facetious sequel.
Example sentence:
Forgetful (but witty) Aunt Lynn's favorite Wellerism is, "'It all comes back to me now', said the Captain as he spat into the wind."
Did you know?
Sam Weller, Mr. Pickwick's good-natured servant in Charles Dickens' _The Pickwick Papers_, and his father were fond of following well-known sayings or phrases with humorous or punning conclusions. For example, in one incident in the book, Sam Weller quips, "What the devil do you want with me, as the man said, w[h]en he see the ghost?" Neither Charles Dickens nor Sam Weller invented that type of word play, but Weller's tendency to use such witticisms had provoked people to start calling them "Wellerisms" by 1839, soon after the publication of the novel. Some examples of common Wellerisms are "'Every one to his own taste,' said the old woman as she kissed the cow," and "'I see,' said the blind man."

And some more about wellerism:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/foxyfolklorist/folklorethursday-wellerism/

I think my favorite is this one:

“It won’t be long now,” said the monkey when he backed into the electric fan.

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What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing You Have Heard From A Witness?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.

he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.

interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.

OrphanCrow

Oh! Oh!

Demon stories

My brother is full of them. I grew up with his demon experiences.

When he moved out of home and rented his own place, his furnished apartment had *gasp!* a crucifix hanging on the wall. Oh my oh my. My bro started getting thrown out of bed at night, the demons started whispering and *gasp!* bro couldn't pull the cross off the wall! It was stuck there!

So, bro called the local JW exorcist - the boss elder - and he went over and prayed to Jehovah with bro. Which unstuck the cross from the wall. But *gasp!*, when they took it outside and put it in the burning barrel, *gasp!*, IT WOULDN'T BURN!!!! More prayers followed and the crucifix was reduced to ash...dust to dust, apparently.

Oh, I could go on for ages...about the chicken NAILED! to the road in front of bro's driveway. And the time that I was visiting and he claimed later that I made the furniture fly around the room with the help of the demons.

Gasp! Demons!

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Biotech company Amgen helping JW with Anemia

by TheWonderofYou in

oiwhen a jw is in a life threatening anemia situation or needs a coronary artery bypass in case of dialysis-dependent chronic renal failure there is bloodless solution: .

epo ....this stands for "erythropoietin" also par in "epoetin" "epogen" and replaces the lost blood seemingly.

it counts to the allowed bloodless therapies.. what was jehovahs part in it?

OrphanCrow

Wonder: Amgen is supporting innovative technique like patient blood management research and information initiatives therefore it sponsors also presumably unknowingly associations that engage sometimes a JW speaker who promotes bloodless medicine.

Good post, Wonder.

I wouldn't call it "unkowingly" associations, though. Not at all.

Check out the authors of this study that was funded by Amgen:

Critical Role of Iron in Epoetin Alfa Treatment of Chemotherapy-Associated Anemia

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5477928/

Authors:

Shannon Farmer - a Jehovah's Witness

Axel Hofmann - a Jehovah's Witness

Sherri Ozawa - a Jehovah's Witness

And of course - Aryeh Shander, the WT's bloodless hero, a "cooperative doctor" and WT "expert" on all things bloodless.

The other two I don't know much about - the names and faces shift rapidly around a core group of JWs and their associates who sit on the top of the bloodless pile.

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Your Favorite Plays on Words

by compound complex in

greetings, fellow word lovers:.

please add your favorite, clever smithing of words.. ****************************.

time flies like an arrow and fruit flies like a banana..

OrphanCrow

Coco, did you hear about the two guys who walked into a bar?

Yeah...it was pretty funny. You would have thought that the second guy would have seen it.

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What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing You Have Heard From A Witness?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.

he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.

interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.

OrphanCrow

My mother: "Everybody in the New World is going to be a mulatto"

Me: "Huh?

Mother: "Oh yes! Eve was a mulatto you know. She would have had to be. That is how we ended up with black people and white people. She would have had to carry the genes for both. Mulatto people are so pretty aren't they? They are such a beautiful color."

Me: silence...

Another one:

Me visiting a friend and a JW man comes to the door.

My friend: "No thank you. I have my own religion that I follow"

JW guy" "We are not a religion. We are a lifestyle"

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Secret Societies involved at the very top of the Org

by Formerbrother in

are all the gb members past and present, part of skulls and bones and other masonic secret societies?

we know the first few top brass were, like br rutherford and br russel.. they all have several expensive watches.

like literally more than one for everyday of the week, rolex and omega, where did they come from?

OrphanCrow

You don't have to be a member of a secret society to be an asshole.

One is not evidence of the other

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New JWism in April broadcast?

by AuntBee in

does anyone know what it means to be "securely wrapped up in the bag of life"?

is this a new special wt terminology?

they said it or a slight variant of it, several times in the broadcast, perhaps 3?

OrphanCrow

Was 1 Samuel 25:29 used as a scripture?

NWT:
When someone rises up to pursue you and seeks your life, the life of my lord will be wrapped securely in the bag of life with Jehovah your God, but the lives of your enemies he will hurl away like stones from a sling

Huh. It sounds like the GB is a little worried about something

*most other translations use "bundle of the living" instead of "bag" (except for one...that uses God's "treasure pouch"...which sounds a bit obscene)

http://biblehub.com/1_samuel/25-29.htm

**ha! Morph...you beat me to it

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Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

by Wasanelder Once in

roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

in one sentence tell why you left the org.

not 2 sentences.

OrphanCrow

I hated the restrictions, the control and the hypocrisy.

OrphanCrow

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