OrphanCrow

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  2017 WTBTS Financial Statement Ireland

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2017 wtbts financial statement irelandhttps://we.tl/f55k8sawsmatlantis!.

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  OrphanCrow

  Shepherdess: Looks like the accounts for Ireland would be quite healthy, if they weren't sending all that money to the branch in Germany.

  Hmmmm

  Are the JWs in Ireland helping to pay the church tax for German JWs?
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  Older Watchtowers and Awakes added on jw.org Online library

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt back to 1950, aw back to 1970, like the cd rom library... .

  why?

  lol.

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  Could this have anything to do with their recent copyright claims and attempts to block certain website(s)?

  Would the org have to provide historical documents for research purposes to bolster their copyright claims? And if they don't, would it allow for others to make them available?
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  Two big points that need to be emphasized in JDub pedophile discussions

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i love watching the jw cart crashers on youtube and how the zombie, brain dead, we are so much better than you jdubs react.

  when they do talk a little about the two witness rule they will mention the need for proof and the testimony of the poor child is just not enough to take the inquiry any further.. the reason for calling the police is immediately is that dna can be gathered from the poor victim.

  this evidence is the second witness used for prosecution.

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  carla: Another reason I think the wt does not allow jw children to join things is because volunteer clubs (girls & boy scouts, etc..) are required by law to report any suspected abuses. You don't need proof, just that you suspect something is terribly wrong in a family. If jw children are kept in their jw bubble then nobody from the outside can look in.

  Absolutely.

  The insular bubble that JW children are inside is so harmful. On the one hand, parents have this distorted belief that they are protecting their children by keeping them inside that bubble and yet who protects the children from them? And from others inside that "trusted" bubble?

  how could a jw child go to anyone in authority? it would take incredible courage on that childs part.

  JW children are taught (and expected) to resist authority. They are taught that they have to stand firm against the educational establishment which is usually the only form of outside authority that a child has to deal with. A JW child is taught that it is their responsibility to "give a good witness" to their teachers and others in authority.

  That bubble is really hard for a child to break.
  
  
  
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  Two big points that need to be emphasized in JDub pedophile discussions

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i love watching the jw cart crashers on youtube and how the zombie, brain dead, we are so much better than you jdubs react.

  when they do talk a little about the two witness rule they will mention the need for proof and the testimony of the poor child is just not enough to take the inquiry any further.. the reason for calling the police is immediately is that dna can be gathered from the poor victim.

  this evidence is the second witness used for prosecution.

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  tiki: Parental education and awareness is vital.

  You are right about that, Tiki.

  However, that does not address the problem when the abuse is occurring within the family. Parents are often the abusers. And, if it is the father that is the abuser, the mother has so little power that nothing is or can be done.

  Educating parents about child sex abuse can often end up being education on how to avoid detection.

  Which leads me to the next point: Educating the public about the child sex abuse that is rampant within the JWs actually advertises to predators that the JW religion is a safe place for them. It becomes a two-edged sword.
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  What are the reasons for the the new electronic publisher card

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  please speculate.

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  OrphanCrow

  Poopie: What are the reasons for the the new electronic publisher card?
  Please speculate

  Morph: Oh you dont have to invite speculation, thats coming

  Haha! I will join the speculation.
  

  Having electronic records will no doubt be for various reasons and the most obvious one is that we live in a digital world

  However, I have said this before and I will say it again... money/tax is one of the motivators

  The org is notorious for implementing structure and behavioral changes globally
  when it is necessary to comply with one or more country's regulations concerning tax and money matters.

  The org has been bragging about how they gained "public law status" in Germany. What this means is that the org must give the German tax office a membership list so that each and every member can be assessed for the amount of tax they owe to their church. This membership list is also tied into the banking system so that any capital gains that a church member has can be properly taxed and the bank turns over that tax amount to the appropriate church.

  Being a "public law status" church, in Germany, means that having a membership list is mandatory. Support for the church's activities must come from member taxation and/or donations.

  
  
  
  
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  Saskatchewan, Canada - Legal advice offered free of charge for sexual violence survivors

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this may be important to somebody who reads this.

  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sask-free-legal-advice-sexual-violence-survivors-1.4633023.

  saskatchewan survivors of sexual violence can now access two hours of free advice from a lawyer.

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  Oh wow.

  That post didn't turn out at all like I had made it

  Sorry...I tried to post a part of the article and a photo of somebody showed up instead

  The program is open to anyone who has experienced incidents like sexual assault, exploitation and harassment as well as historical sexual abuse.
  A police report isn't required, nor are there age or gender restrictions. However, the sexual violence had to have happened in Saskatchewan.
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  Saskatchewan, Canada - Legal advice offered free of charge for sexual violence survivors

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this may be important to somebody who reads this.

  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sask-free-legal-advice-sexual-violence-survivors-1.4633023.

  saskatchewan survivors of sexual violence can now access two hours of free advice from a lawyer.

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  OrphanCrow

  This may be important to somebody who reads this

  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sask-free-legal-advice-sexual-violence-survivors-1.4633023

  Saskatchewan survivors of sexual violence can now access two hours of free advice from a lawyer.

  

  Read full article at link
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  Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

  judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

  april 12, 2018. .

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  OrphanCrow

  Canadian law is no different, Morph.

  Innocent until proven guilty

  https://www.canlii.org/en/sk/skqb/doc/2005/2005skqb165/2005skqb165.html
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  Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

  judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

  april 12, 2018. .

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  Morph: Crow, if there is not search warrant than you cant break into someones home and search no matter what you think you “know”.
  There is a process.

  I realize that. I am not unaware of the process

  And the process is playing out.

  My point was that if an accused holds evidence, then they cannot be proved guilty until that evidence is revealed

  How that plays out is dependent upon jurisdictional laws

  Getting a search warrant isn't fool proof. There was a JW abuse case in Canada (2005) where the "evidence" was collected from congregation files by a search warrant and that evidence was considered inadmissible. Case dismissed
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  Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

  judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

  april 12, 2018. .

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  OrphanCrow

  Bobby; he has stolen merchandise

  It's locked up. Nobody can access it.

  People know about it but I don't have the key to the place it is locked up in. I can't prove it.

  The thief has the evidence and nobody can get to it.

  Now what?