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Meanwhile...in Argentina

by OrphanCrow in

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http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova.

project detail.

type: special projects.

OrphanCrow

Here is a description of the "gated community" of Nordelta:

http://www.diercke.com/kartenansicht.xtp?artId=978-3-14-100790-9&seite=151&id=17640&kartennr=4

Segregation in Buenos Aires – Gated communities (Barrios privados)
Beginning in the late 1980s, substantial parts of the greater Buenos Aires metropolitan area were transformed through private-sector initiatives. The key elements of this post-modern urban development process included new highway construction, the creation of private industrial parks, shopping centres and recreation facilities and the development of new gated residential estates in urban and suburban settings. Suburban developments alone cover an area half again the size of the city of Buenos Aires (Capital Federal). These major housing projects encompass several thousand housing units with integrated shopping centres. Nordelta Nordelta is a private, limited-access city in the northern Buenos Aires metropolitan area. The district is part of the community of Tigre and borders on the attractive landscape of the Tigre Delta. Formerly owned by the state and largely unsettled due to periodic flooding, the land was privatized during the 1970s. A prerequisite for urbanization was the excavation of a number of man-made lakes, which raised the level of the adjacent building land by four metres. The original idea of a socially heterogeneous city for 140,000 inhabitants from all social classes was abandoned in the early 1990s in favour of the concept of a private city for 80,000 people. The necessary infrastructure measures were carried out with private-sector funding. The new building plan calls for the construction of several independent, self-contained neighbourhoods, each of which will represent a separate barrio privado. Three integrated public complexes with sport and recreational facilities, a shopping centre, schools and kindergartens are to be created at the same time. Each private city is to be built around a central lake with a highly irregular shoreline and an area of approximately 170 hectares. The Nordelta district also encompasses more than 300 hectares of green space. The area is accessible via a four-lane highway. Security checks are performed at highway exits and other entrances and between the neighbourhoods themselves. Nordelta exhibits nearly all of the functions of a complete city. The primary target group is composed of young families seeking a quiet suburban living environment. This new, appealing residential setting is also a product of clever marketing strategies employed by real-estate firms and the print media. One of the first neighbourhoods to be completed was the Los Castores estate in the North. The nearly 600 lots have an average size of 1,100 square metres. The La Isla estate to the south is the most exclusive residential development in Nordelta. Forty of the more than 270 lots have areas of over 5,000 square metres. The first new residents moved to Nordelta in 2001, and more than 100 households were established within the first year. By 2006, 1,500 houses were occupied by roughly 5,000 residents. According to current plans, housing for 80,000 people is to be ready for occupancy by 2015. And, a story about Nordelta: Story of cities #46: the gated Buenos Aires community which left its poor neighbours under water

Segregation in Buenos Aires – Gated communities (Barrios privados)

Beginning in the late 1980s, substantial parts of the greater Buenos Aires metropolitan area were transformed through private-sector initiatives. The key elements of this post-modern urban development process included new highway construction, the creation of private industrial parks, shopping centres and recreation facilities and the development of new gated residential estates in urban and suburban settings. Suburban developments alone cover an area half again the size of the city of Buenos Aires (Capital Federal). These major housing projects encompass several thousand housing units with integrated shopping centres.
Nordelta
Nordelta is a private, limited-access city in the northern Buenos Aires metropolitan area. The district is part of the community of Tigre and borders on the attractive landscape of the Tigre Delta. Formerly owned by the state and largely unsettled due to periodic flooding, the land was privatized during the 1970s. A prerequisite for urbanization was the excavation of a number of man-made lakes, which raised the level of the adjacent building land by four metres. The original idea of a socially heterogeneous city for 140,000 inhabitants from all social classes was abandoned in the early 1990s in favour of the concept of a private city for 80,000 people. The necessary infrastructure measures were carried out with private-sector funding. The new building plan calls for the construction of several independent, self-contained neighbourhoods, each of which will represent a separate barrio privado. Three integrated public complexes with sport and recreational facilities, a shopping centre, schools and kindergartens are to be created at the same time. Each private city is to be built around a central lake with a highly irregular shoreline and an area of approximately 170 hectares. The Nordelta district also encompasses more than 300 hectares of green space. The area is accessible via a four-lane highway. Security checks are performed at highway exits and other entrances and between the neighbourhoods themselves.
Nordelta exhibits nearly all of the functions of a complete city. The primary target group is composed of young families seeking a quiet suburban living environment. This new, appealing residential setting is also a product of clever marketing strategies employed by real-estate firms and the print media. One of the first neighbourhoods to be completed was the Los Castores estate in the North. The nearly 600 lots have an average size of 1,100 square metres. The La Isla estate to the south is the most exclusive residential development in Nordelta. Forty of the more than 270 lots have areas of over 5,000 square metres.
The first new residents moved to Nordelta in 2001, and more than 100 households were established within the first year. By 2006, 1,500 houses were occupied by roughly 5,000 residents. According to current plans, housing for 80,000 people is to be ready for occupancy by 2015.

And, a story about Nordelta:

Story of cities #46: the gated Buenos Aires community which left its poor neighbours under water

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Meanwhile...in Argentina

by OrphanCrow in

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http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova.

project detail.

type: special projects.

OrphanCrow

sir82: A shopping center?!?!?

Yup. A shopping center. In one of the most upscale areas in Buenos Aires. A private gated community where property values are through the roof.

And this org project isn't using volunteer labor - they have engaged an outside construction firm.

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Meanwhile...in Argentina

by OrphanCrow in

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friends

http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova.

project detail.

type: special projects.

OrphanCrow

http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova

PROJECT DETAIL

Type: Special Projects

Commitent: Asociación de los Testigos de Jehová

Project:

Start Date: 2018

End Date: 2020

Surface: 19.300 m2

Boulevard de la Plaza No 255, Nordelta, Tigre, Pcia. Buenos Aires

DESCRIPTION

The Jehovah's Witnesses’ Association retained CRIBA’s services to build its headquarters in Nordelta, an affluent Buenos Aires suburb. The project includes the construction of three residential and office buildings, a mid to large sized shopping center and an underground parking lot. CRIBA will also do landscaping work on the surrounding green spaces.

***********

Nordelta is one of the wealthiest areas of Buenos Aires.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shelliekarabell/2018/03/28/eduardo-constantini-a-billionaires-eye-for-business-and-beauty/#6f5027d48776

Costantini created in 1999 the capital city's first exclusive gated community, Nordelta, a refuge for wealthy Argentines looking to escape the incessant petty crime and noise of even the most exclusive neighborhoods in Buenos Aires. Home to some 30,000, Nordelta features medical care, schools recreation and shopping - a city within a city, sometimes criticized for increasing social divisiveness.

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Research Help Needed for University Presentation

by dubstepped in

my wife and i will be presenting in a class at the local university in a couple of weeks.

the class is about social media and psychology.

of course they talk about fake news and propaganda.

OrphanCrow

Not sure if this is what you're looking for:

https://goo.gl/images/WXFt3X

Jwfacts has an response to vthe WT article that used that image: https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/disfellowship-shunning.

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Research Help Needed for University Presentation

by dubstepped in

my wife and i will be presenting in a class at the local university in a couple of weeks.

the class is about social media and psychology.

of course they talk about fake news and propaganda.

OrphanCrow

goneforgood: a picture being worth a thousand words...and if you can backdrop your presentation with images...

I agree. The WT's use of images is critical to their propaganda success. The image is one of the strongest tools that the WT uses.

Violence from god always depicted as the earth opening up, fire from the sky, cities collapsing on fire ... one member here still remembers her fear of the drawing of a girl and her bicycle falling into the void ...published when she was herself a girl with a bicycle.

I would guess that anyone (me included) who cut their teeth on that ugly flamingo orange Paradise book can recall the images far better than they can the words.

The image of the 4 horsemen from that book, and the one with the valley of skulls, gave me nightmares as a child.

Propaganda is all about the image - even when it doesn't use an actual picture, it is the way that words are put together to provoke an internal image that will define the effectiveness of the propaganda's message. The images (written or otherwise) evoke emotions readily and that is what propaganda is all about - appealing to the emotions.

Good luck with your presentation, Dubstepped.

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When you were an active JW, did you ever have dealings with a pyramid scheme?

by Tameria2001 in

i'm not sure why this memory popped up, and i was wondering if any others, when they were still active jw had dealings with a pyramid scheme involving other witnesses in the organization?

at the time it was 1993, and my husband and i were still newlyweds.

once in a while, we would attend a neighboring congregation because that was where he grew up, and some of his family was still attending there at the time.

OrphanCrow

Smiddy: had a couple of encounters with a brother and a sister that was involved with different types of weight loss schemes.
The "sister" was rather plump and overweight and tried to entice my wife into the scheme ,I tactlessly told her that it didn`t seem to be doing her much good .

Hahaha!

*Ps- this thread reads like a Golden Age magazine

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Notice to the Congregation and Members of the Burns Kingdom Hall - possible entitlement to monetary distributions

by OrphanCrow in

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*i saw this posted on reddit and thought that it might interest some here.... https://btimesherald.com/classifieds/.

notice to the congregation and members of the burns kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses, as of 5-17-2011. notice is hereby given that the trustee of the zelma christine brooks revocable living trust is attempting to identify all qualifying beneficiaries fitting the following description:.

“dedicated, baptized active heads of households, male or female, members of the burns, oregon congregation jehovah’s witnesses,” on the exact date of 5-17-2011.. qualifying individuals may be entitled to monetary distributions from the above named trust.

OrphanCrow

*I saw this posted on reddit and thought that it might interest some here...

https://btimesherald.com/classifieds/

NOTICE TO THE CONGREGATION and MEMBERS OF THE BURNS KINGDOM HALL OF JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES, AS OF 5-17-2011

NOTICE is hereby given that the Trustee of the Zelma Christine Brooks Revocable Living Trust is attempting to identify ALL Qualifying Beneficiaries fitting the following description:

“DEDICATED, BAPTIZED ACTIVE HEADS OF HOUSEHOLDS, MALE OR FEMALE, MEMBERS OF THE BURNS, OREGON CONGREGATION JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES,” on the exact date of 5-17-2011.

Qualifying individuals may be ENTITLED TO MONETARY DISTRIBUTIONS from the above named trust. Subsequently moving to another congregation, death, becoming a non-member, or being disassociated from the Congregation does NOT necessarily disqualify.

If you feel that you fit this description or know somebody whom you feel rightfully qualifies, please contact the Trustee at:
Trustee of the ZCB RLT
P.O. Box 325
Creswell, OR 97426

Publish Feb 27, March 6 and 13, 2019

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Russia Confiscates $30.4 Million Property From Jehovah's Witnesses

by Room 215 in

https://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/russia-confiscates-30-4-million-property-jehovahs-witnesses.

it would appear that with this most recent confiscation the total taken from the jws by moscow amounts to more that $75 million.

(ouch!

OrphanCrow

Corney, you do realize that the org didn't really "follow the law" when they constructed many of the KHs in Russia?

I have read personal accounts of Russian exJWs that relate how some of the KHs were built using duplicitous means - getting permits that were dishonest (claiming that they were building either a commercial enterprise or a residential home not at all connected to the religion) and than making efforts to disguise that they were JWs (pretending to be "worldly" by adopting "worldly" behavior when inspectors came around - pretending to smoke, etc). and then, once things started "going south" in the Russian courts, the org asked the Russian JWs (who had built those KHs with their own money and labor) to transfer ownership out of the country to European JWs.

The org didn't really "follow the law" to begin with and now they are paying the price. And, to be clear - I am not talking about "religion" and all the supposed "freedoms" that are supposed to go along with that concept - I am talking about dishonest practices in the org's construction/real estate industry.

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Russia Confiscates $30.4 Million Property From Jehovah's Witnesses

by Room 215 in

https://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/russia-confiscates-30-4-million-property-jehovahs-witnesses.

it would appear that with this most recent confiscation the total taken from the jws by moscow amounts to more that $75 million.

(ouch!

OrphanCrow

A thread about the org's Russian properties:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6260317501784064/russia-who-will-get-property-jehovahs-witnesses

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Russia Confiscates $30.4 Million Property From Jehovah's Witnesses

by Room 215 in

https://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/russia-confiscates-30-4-million-property-jehovahs-witnesses.

it would appear that with this most recent confiscation the total taken from the jws by moscow amounts to more that $75 million.

(ouch!

OrphanCrow

"According to the JW representative, the total value of JW properties that either have been confiscated or subject to confiscation is approximately $75,361,314."

Right. Total value. That means that is what its potential value is...market value. Now.

I wonder how much was invested in those properties. How much real money went into them. Consider that the value (potential) has large amounts of volunteer labor imbedded into it.

* Didn't Michael Jackson donate a huge chunk to purchase land for the admin center?