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  Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

  you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

  up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

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  Vidiot: Not that you're knocking the occasional bump in the dark...

  Hell no.

  Bumps in the dark can be a lot of fun at times. It doesn't even have to be dark...
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  Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

  you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

  up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

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  DJS: OC, I don't know anyone, man or woman, who fits what you describe below.

  Actually, you do.

  That is what the OP is all about. The wife feels like her husband is not providing safety for her. (Her perception of safety is tied up in the JW ideology). So she is not giving him sex. The husband wants sex without giving her the assurances that she will be safe anyways. Resolution and negotiation of those commodity exchanges will take time and a lot of work.

  The OP is about the economics of sex within a marriage.
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  Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

  you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

  up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

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  vidiot: So, you're saying that there are no women out there who just want to occasionally scratch an itch?

  Nope. That is not at all what I am saying.

  Sex is sex. Of course it is. Trust me, I have no problem with that concept.

  But, I thought that this thread was about sex within a marriage between a husband and a wife. And, that is what I am commenting on. Sex within a long term relationship is quite different than a bump in the dark.
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  Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

  you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

  up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

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  LisaRose: In their experience all women do use sex as a bartering tool...

  So do men. Men want the sex first - then they will (maybe) give the woman safety, security, trust, intimacy, etc.

  The economics of sex:

  Woman: I want safety, trust, intimacy, etc...then I will give you sex.

  Man: I want sex. I will give you those things if I get sex first.
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  Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

  you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

  up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

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  goingthru: i know that i am only mentioning the sex part of the relationship...but to me it is the foundation of a healthy relationship and marriage.
  it creates intimacy, it creates trust, it creates love....this is the reason so many marriages fail in my opinion.

  Well, there you go. Now we know what the issue is.

  Men have it backwards.

  Women want the intimacy, trust and love before the sex act occurs. Men don't bother with all those messy, time consuming acts of love first...they think that it magically happens after their sexual urges are satisfied.

  Newsflash! : intimacy, trust and love do not require an emission of bodily fluids. In fact, for most women in marriages, that emission of bodily fluids has to come after those emotional needs are looked after first, not before.
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  Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

  you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

  up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

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  DJS: ....using sex as a weapon is the worst thing a woman can do.

  Sometimes, that is the only weapon that a woman has to use. In the JW cult, women are disempowered...it is not surprisingly that she will use the only weapon she has. Not surprising at all.

  Your wife must want to become intimate with you again on her own rather than because she was pressured, guilted or talked into it.

  Exactly. Sex, even within a marriage arrangement, is supposed to be consensual. That is why "rendering the husband his due" is one of the most misogynist statements that can be made in regards to marital relationships.

  If women are to be accused of using sex as a weapon, it is because they have been taught that sex is what a man can demand and get because "the bibble says so". The bibble is the weapon that men use to get their "manly" desires satisfied.

  Frankly, if I had a husband that pulled that scripture out of his ass to force me to have sex with him, I would tell him to go fuck the bible and leave me alone. Using the bible to force a woman to have sex with him is one of the worst weapons that a man can use. It's pathetic, actually. Pathetic and pitiful.
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  A note on the Watchtowers property investments

  by Saintbertholdt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  about a year ago there was a thread regarding the 2008 watchtower bible and tract society of new yorks tax return.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/287098/2008-watchtower-income-tax-return?page=1.

  a reference was made to the provictor property fund iv which was listed as their primary alternate business activity.. turns out that at that time 75% of the chrysler building was owned by the provictor property fund iv until it was sold during that year.. http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/09/news/international/chrysler_building/?postversion=2008070913.

  just thought you should know :).

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  OrphanCrow

  Thanks, Jeff.

  Got it.
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  A note on the Watchtowers property investments

  by Saintbertholdt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  about a year ago there was a thread regarding the 2008 watchtower bible and tract society of new yorks tax return.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/287098/2008-watchtower-income-tax-return?page=1.

  a reference was made to the provictor property fund iv which was listed as their primary alternate business activity.. turns out that at that time 75% of the chrysler building was owned by the provictor property fund iv until it was sold during that year.. http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/09/news/international/chrysler_building/?postversion=2008070913.

  just thought you should know :).

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  Millie: I just did the math and as of today that total is equal to $1,361,584,818.41 give or take a few pennies.

  Millie...can you show your math? I am not following how you got that figure. The only relevant number I could find was that the fund was worth $18.78 billion...and if the WTS owns 7%, then the WTS share would be worth just over $13 million.

  https://www.jpmorganfunds.com/cm/Satellite?UserFriendlyURL=holdings&pagename=jpmfVanityWrapper&cusip=4812C0324
  

  Portfolio stats (as of 8/31/2015)

  Fund Assets	$18.78
  (in billions)
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  Is it really that great being one of the Governing Body Members?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  movie stars travel to, or buy their own private beaches, they get invited to fun parties, and are able to buy not one, but several fast sport cars like jay leno.

  they can buy their own planes and helicopters and fly them like harrison ford.

  (how much fun would that be?

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  prologos: OC: "--as a GB you can readily find a young honey half your age"-- ?--- You do not have to be GB material to achieve that

  I didn't say that - I was only quoting JWGoneBad.

  I only responded that it is "how women are thought of in the JW cult. Johnson warmers."

  As I said before...and people wonder why abuse is such a problem in the JW cult??

  And you are right, prologos, you don't have to be a GB member to measure success on whether or not you can get a young johnson warmer.

  
  
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  Is it really that great being one of the Governing Body Members?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  movie stars travel to, or buy their own private beaches, they get invited to fun parties, and are able to buy not one, but several fast sport cars like jay leno.

  they can buy their own planes and helicopters and fly them like harrison ford.

  (how much fun would that be?

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  JWGoneBad: ....because of your position and rank as a GB you can readily find a young honey half your age to keep your 'Johnson' warm.

  Of course.

  That is exactly how men measure success - if they have someplace warm and wet to stick their johnson.

  And that, my girls, is how women are thought of in the JW cult. Johnson warmers.

  And people wonder why there is such an abuse problem in the JWs? Huh. Knock me over with a feather.