http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/watch_comedian_lewis_black_reads_18_year_old_s_resignation_letter_to_the_mormon_church(warning!
language!
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makemeanunbeliever: If one cant make their points without harsh profanity then it wont make deep inroads of change.
I don't think that a comedian's rant is about making change. Since when are comedians held up to the standard of activism?
This is comedy, not activism. Comedy is about finding "voice", not about satisfying the audience's need to see change.
after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
Distracted: I'm wondering why this thread got rather contentious??? It doesn't make sense to me. I thought this group was open to people of various stages of awareness and positions.
That is an easy one to answer, Distracted. Godzoo gave the answer on page one of this thread:
Godzoo: Here we go again. Preaching masquerading as debate..
Generally, exJW communities do not respond well to people who try to preach to them.
A poster can dress it up whatever way they like, but certain members, like Godzoo, have a finely tuned nose that is sensitive to preaching smells.
This poster reeks strongly of preaching smell.
the vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.
if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.
send as many details as you can recall.
Lee Elder: There is a contact page at the bottom of the map.
I am confused, Lee. I tried to use the contact email at the bottom of the page but when I tried to send it, I got an error message.
Other than that, all I can find on the blood map page is a place to leave a comment. I don't want to post a comment as the information I am giving has names, etc, that I don't want to post - am I supposed to use the comment feature to report a no-blood incident?
Thank you, Wifi. I downloaded it and stuck it in my ever growing bulky file of "rules and regulations of the WTS".
Sheesh...do you know of any other group/organization that micromanages to this degree? I get dizzy reading all their rules and restrictions and directives on behaviour. Not only that, but it is hard to breathe after a session of wading through WTS letters and documents.
Gad, if you stacked up hard copies of all the rules, regulations, letters of instruction, manuals, etc,, that this organization has produced in its history, how high do you think the pile would be?
i was something like 20-21 and there was this young sister, maybe 16 who i happened to like back in the day ... uh oh ...we met in the summer convention because i made the first move while she was playing board games with her friend.
we kept in touch via skype and text messages because lived kinda far from each other.
eventually her mother heard of the stuff and said to her daughter that the chatting must stop.... well, when two people have a little crush on one another, it sure doesn't.
Morpheus: The final insult.... You bought her a gift. You stalked her and found out what size she wore and bought her something to wear.
I agree. That behaviour is called "grooming". What makes it even creepier is that it was an item of clothing as opposed to something less personal. A 20 something adult man buying clothing for a "maybe 16" (likely less...) year old girl? Yuck. She is a minor child regardless of how she looks.
The bottom line...
Underage is illegal. Against the law regardless of the "cultural norms" of the JW cult.
the thread about magazines stopping distribution in india reminded me of a recent conversation.
a local brother said he asked for a copy of the new organisation book for publishers.
the elder told the brother to print it out if he wanted a physical copy.
NewYork44:
dropoffyourkeylee
However, in undeveloped countries there is still a need for print.
That is only if they are interested in pursuing their interests in these countries. They may have the attitude of why bother, these countries bring no economic value to the organization.
It isn't just the money...many of those "undeveloped countries" have laws that prohibit religious conversion. India, for one.
the vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.
if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.
send as many details as you can recall.
This quote showed up in the Australasian Anaesthsia Blue Book 2011 in an article The Management of Adult Jehovah’s Witnesses in Anaesthesia and Critical Care by ANNE-MARIE WELSH, BSC, MBCHB (HONS), MRCP, FCICM Staff Specialist, Department of Critical Care Medicine, Nambour General Hospital, Nambour.
It is estimated that approximately 1000 Jehovah’s Witnesses die annually worldwide and as many as 100,000 may have died by abstaining from blood transfusions since the blood ban was introduced in 1945.
http://www.anzca.edu.au/resources/college-publications/pdfs/ANZCA%20Blue%20Book%202011%20P6.pdf
I have made several attempts to contact Anne-Marie Welsh to find out where she had accessed those numbers, but I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to contact her. Because this paper was published in Australia, and Australia's health care system is influenced by WT bloodless men, I assumed that the numbers came from the JWs who have been interested in promoting blood management in Australia. But, I could be wrong about that.
downloadable as a pdf here.. i did a search and couldn't find this posted on the forum.
if it has been and this is a repeat post....i apologize.. there is lots of information in that pdf that may be of interest to our members who like numbers and money and misc info pertaining to wts organizational structure, etc..
dozy: No disrespect , but the OP didn't search very hard.
No disrespect taken. This financial statement did not turn up in searches on this forum. If you can find a thread on this forum where this has already been discussed, it would be much appreciated. No disrespect intended.
downloadable as a pdf here.. i did a search and couldn't find this posted on the forum.
if it has been and this is a repeat post....i apologize.. there is lots of information in that pdf that may be of interest to our members who like numbers and money and misc info pertaining to wts organizational structure, etc..
Thank you, JeffT! (and Mephis for the 2014 statement)
I knew there would be somebody here who would know how to read a real financial statement. I look forward to your summary.
downloadable as a pdf here.. i did a search and couldn't find this posted on the forum.
if it has been and this is a repeat post....i apologize.. there is lots of information in that pdf that may be of interest to our members who like numbers and money and misc info pertaining to wts organizational structure, etc..
I did a search and couldn't find this posted on the forum. If it has been and this is a repeat post....I apologize.
There is lots of information in that pdf that may be of interest to our members who like numbers and money and misc info pertaining to WTS organizational structure, etc.
