sfb: Does this mean individual elders will be prosecuted?
I think that JW elders (and ex-elders) who didn't report child abuse should be getting a little nervous right about now.
This should shake their confidence in the Watchtower legal advice.
court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
sfb: Does this mean individual elders will be prosecuted?
I think that JW elders (and ex-elders) who didn't report child abuse should be getting a little nervous right about now.
This should shake their confidence in the Watchtower legal advice.
court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
slidingfast: This is significant since it recognises that a JC is not a with a penitent but is an investigation with sanctions. Since this is the Delaware Supreme Court it also sets a legal precedent.
Yes. This is a very important ruling that will not allow the JW elders to use the "clergy-penitent" clause in order to escape mandatory reporting.
Huh. Betcha a lot of elders are gonna be pissed that they listened to the Watchtower lawyers instead of following the law.
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court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
A motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the Laurel Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.
A lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.
The case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the Jehovah's Witnesses congregation.
Download the court opinion here
blood saves lives.
a safe blood supply is vital for the health of everybody.. in canada, the province with the highest rates of hiv and hep c is saskatchewan.
and it is in this province, run by a right wing government, where for-profit blood donation will be rolled out.. http://regina.ctvnews.ca/company-that-pays-for-blood-donations-opening-first-sask-clinic-1.2741056.
Blood saves lives. A safe blood supply is vital for the health of everybody.
In Canada, the province with the highest rates of HIV and Hep C is Saskatchewan. And it is in this province, run by a right wing government, where for-profit blood donation will be rolled out.
http://regina.ctvnews.ca/company-that-pays-for-blood-donations-opening-first-sask-clinic-1.2741056
And a video as to why paid blood donor clinics are dangerous to a country's blood supply:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaUHhHBbkV0
If you are a Canadian, and feel as strongly as I do about protecting our blood supply, this is the link to a petition that is open for signatures until May 17, 2016:
https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-126
Whereas:
- Over 30,000 Canadians were infected with HIV and Hepatitis C via tainted blood in Canada, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Canadians and harming countless families;
- Canada spent $17 million dollars on a publicly-funded federal inquiry which revealed that the paid-donor system was a key factor contributing to Canadians receiving tainted blood;
- Billions of dollars in compensation have been given to those who received tainted blood and their families due, in part, to Canada's former reliance on blood from paid donors;
- The Krever Inquiry recommended an end to a private, for-profit blood donor system in Canada, citing these five basic principles regarding how the blood system should be governed: 1. Blood is a public resource; 2. Donors should not be paid; 3. Sufficient blood should be collected so that importation from other countries is unnecessary; 4. Access to blood and blood products should be free and universal; and 5. Safety of the blood supply system is paramount;
We, the undersigned, residents of Canada, request (or call upon) the Government of Canada to:
- Our blood plasma is not meant to be a commodity that is bought and sold, we must protect our voluntary blood system in Canada and ensure we have one national operator, the Canadian Blood Services, to oversee blood collection and plasma collection in our country.
Refuse to issue or approve any license to Canadian Plasma Resources or other private, for-profit, donor-paid blood products company to operate in Canada; and
Implement legislation that ensures no for-profit, donor-paid blood donor clinics are allowed to operate in Canada.
a jw made the claim "no christian [jw] has ever murdered anyone".. when i showed examples of such, the goalposts moved a bit with "was he a baptized, dedicated witness?".
can anyone provide examples of murders committed by "baptized, dedicated" jws?.
thanks.
This website has many murders documented that were committed by JWs - some in good standing and some were not.
http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/familicide.html
There are 5 pages of crimes to wade through and many are murders...especially murder/suicide incidents.
And another list of crimes (another 5 pages) by JWs against others not of the JW faith
http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/jwcrime.html
do you remember the case?
jehovers witness parents did a runner without telling the medical staff caring for their seriously ill child and took him to receive proton therapy in praque as this treatment was not available in the u.k.. first most importantly the good news, the boy was declared cancer free last march.. anyway i am sure at the time this issue would have created a lot of heated debate on the forum, as it was a case that created a media frenzy, with the parents and their jehovers witness religious beliefs being heavily critizised .
however as i followed the case i couldn't help but admire the parents, as i felt they would have acted indepentedly of both the jehovers witness organisation and the u.k medical advice, having in my opinion seriously thought the matter through, and then doing they thought was the best way for treatment.. so if you remember the case my questions are:-.
The Kings may have made a public statement saying that they would accept blood for their little boy, however, their intial decision to pursue proton beam therapy could very well have been influenced by their noblood beliefs.
http://www.proton-therapy.org/pr03.htm
This form of therapy is called "bloodless surgery" because it leaves vital organs and healthy tissue near the tumor unaffected.
Note that the birthplace of proton beam therapy is the same as where 'bloodless' surgery first got its start in the States (stomping grounds of Lapin et al):
Back in 1990, when Loma Linda University Medical Center first began treating patients with proton therapy, it was called the future of cancer treatment.
And, proton beam therapy, according to that article, carries the exact same label as has been applied to bloodless medicine and now, to blood management..."the golden standard":
...and is looked upon as the "gold standard" of treatment
I think there is more going on to the story than we are told in the media. I think that the King's decision was affected by the WT's preferred medical procedures and was pushed to them by their HLC as the avenue to pursue.
for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .
christ left a ministry , or meeting .
children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).
I think of "Clam Up"
You know...theocratic warfare training and all that...learning how to keep your mouth shut
Clam up - just like all those JW guys did when they were on the stand down in Australia...
my son is nearing completion of his 3-1/2 year chemo journey.
i have an appointment with his primary oncologist at the end of next month as an end of treatment exit meeting.
she and her team are leads at this particular hospital.
This was written by Lee Elder and Dr Muramoto and published in Journal of Medical Ethics:
"Refusal of potentially life-saving blood transfusions by Jehovah's Witnesses: should doctors explain that not all JWs think it's religiously required?"
http://jme.bmj.com/content/26/5/299.full?trendmd-shared=0There are some free downloadable pdfs in the reference section at the bottom of the article that would be useful
stoops manufacturing, the wt approved distribrution company for "all things jw" for many years, has been dissolved because of a "failure to file an administration report" with the state of missouri.. https://bsd.sos.mo.gov/businessentity/businessentitydetail.aspx?page=besearch&id=404520.
you can download the full document from that link.. .
does anyone know anything about stoops?
Hmmmm...
What is odd is that the Stoops website seems to be operational - which violates the directive from the State of Missouri that states they cannot carry on business.
Who is running Stoops since it was dissolved and how can they legally still carry on business?
Something isn't adding up
my son is nearing completion of his 3-1/2 year chemo journey.
i have an appointment with his primary oncologist at the end of next month as an end of treatment exit meeting.
she and her team are leads at this particular hospital.
I know that there are some articles written by an RN that have looked at how to educate nurses on how to give access of medical information to pregnant JW women about their health care options. Basically - an education for nurses and how to optimize the health choices for pregnant JW women - the most vulnerable group of the noblood doctrine. And, the results of how many JW women actually chose blood over noblood options.
I will have to look for it...if someone knows what I am talking about - please post. The articles are quite good.