we once experienced, the "you'll die at armegeddon," fear instilled into us as jw's.. was that worse or better than the fear of eternal torment instilled by more conventional religions?.
john spong gives his view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkah3hemv3m.
You just don't want to be a choir boy (or whatever they called it)
Altar boy.
haha, just thinking of all the "recovering Catholics" I have met in the past 35 years
Me too. My friend calls herself a "lapsed Catholic". She is an accomplished and published author and a few years back she published a book of poetry. Some really incredible poems in it that explore the Catholic experience.
after a number of high profile cases where both children and survivors clearly weren't adequately protected, the charity commission here in the uk launched an investigation into the wbts as a whole here in britain.
the main concerns are around the child safeguarding policies being inadequate.
wbts have fought every step of the way so far.. wbts have been to the high court, who told them to complain to the proper tribunal.. wbts have been to the proper tribunal, who told them that too darn right there were suitable grounds for the charity commission to want to investigate their inability to protect children.. and now the wbts have gone back to the court of appeal to demand that the charity commission inquiry be halted.. i hope the court of appeal tells them that, yes, they too need to have proper safeguarding measures for children and to get on with co-operating with the investigation.. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-defends-its-investigation-into-jehovahs-witness-charity-in-the-court-of-appeal.
Mephis: The only good thing about the taxpayer subsidising them (as they're a charity) is that it does allow their refusal to behave like responsible grown-up to be investigated.
Exactly.
Along with tax-free status comes accountability. The Watch Tower's tax-free status is going to bite them in the ass.
This is such a bad, bad example. It doesn't even make sense.
The "unpaid labourers" of Egypt were conquered slaves. Of Egypt.
How the hell do they get "other sheep" from the conquered slaves of Egypt??
Are the "other sheep" previous enemies?
"...in fetters they will come over"....that must be the line that means that the JWs are the same as the slaves of Egypt.
Stupid stupid "prophetic interpretation". Pfffft. These guys are losing the script.
wt claims their website is the 'most translated' and claims over 750 languages.
but in the drop down language menu there are only about 50. so where are the others?
The Bible is available in 909 languages from here:
yes - awake!
1994 may 22 p.2 youths who put god first (3-15).
"in former times thousands of youths died for putting god first.
sbf: And I don't know that thousands of children have died because of no blood. No doubt many have, but thousands?
Yes. Thousands.
70 years of blood ban...over 100,000 deaths since it started, 1000 per year.
Of course 'thousands of children' is accurate.
http://committingsociology.com/2016/01/15/transcending-religious-ideas-is-easy-transcending-religious-thinking-is-hard/.
why god won’t go away.
january 15, 2016 john faithful hamer .
Thanks, Barbara.
A really great article.
interesting video, shame it wasn't about jws.
http://youtu.be/-1bdbkjbzzy.
what a would be your top 5 shocking things you found out about jws on the internet?.
Terry: Stupidity and indoctrination are insurmountable.
Absolutely.
There will always be martyrs. It is a human complex. I think of my JW sister, so self righteously and pridefully saying, with a twinge in her pathetic voice "Oh....woe is me. The doctors here can't operate on me. They don't have bloodless surgery." Defiantly resisting any discussion on the matter. "The Watchtower says. And they have da Troof, you know. That is just the way it is."
Do or die. She thrives on it. It keeps her from taking responsibilty for making her own decisions.
http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2016/01/jehovahs-witnesses-history-brooklyn-properties-selling/.
how the jehovah’s witnesses acquired some of brooklyn’s most insanely valuable properties by.
suzanne spellen 1/26/16 .
I am going to chime in on the nit picking...
Wasn't it Knorr and Franz who came down on Christmas and birthdays?
My mom was raised a JW - she was born in 1933. And she has books with "Merry Xmas" and "Happy Birthday" written in them given to her by her JW parents (very strict followers). I asked her about this and she said it wasn't really 'hard doctrine' until around the war. And Rutherford had very little influence - he was of poor health, was living out in California, and died in 1942.
interesting video, shame it wasn't about jws.
http://youtu.be/-1bdbkjbzzy.
what a would be your top 5 shocking things you found out about jws on the internet?.
jookbeard: Choice? the sad thing is that choice is one thing that the R&F didn't have, suicide or a death bed JC, what a choice!
Oh, but...the JWs had already demonstrated that ability during WW2 - to die for Jehovah. Loyalty or death. They still flog that one to death.
It was that attribute that endeared them to Himmler. By the end of the war, the JWs who were selected to work for Himmler's SS network, were released on a handshake. Yeah...Himmler greatly admired the "loyalty or death" principle that the JWs demonstrated. In fact, he had plans to use them as a vanguard in conquered territory following German victory.
But...I digress.
interesting video, shame it wasn't about jws.
http://youtu.be/-1bdbkjbzzy.
what a would be your top 5 shocking things you found out about jws on the internet?.
Oh...and another thing...
Where the internet was vital to me at the time I was reading books, was in opening lines of communication. I corresponded with several authors of the books I read, including Douglas Starr, the author of the book I first mentioned, asking questions. And I got good feedback.
I even managed to track down and correspond with a doctor that the JWs used in their early noblood propaganda. He was great.
That kind of information access and lines of communication are invaluable.
