this video will be played at one of the clam meetings in march 2016.. the content is kind of old news because it is a recut version of a previous video produced for the elder's school.
however, it's still significant because it shows that the organization still has dissenting brothers in positions of leadership.. my thanks to the leaker.
feel free to claim credit here.
You are welcome, Jhine.
For anyone who is faced with having to deal with someone who is suicidal, here is some good advice:
http://www.suicide.org/how-to-help-a-suicidal-person.html
note this little item:
do not allow untrained individuals to act as the only couselors to the individual
Having a "Bibble trained conscience" does not qualify someone to be a suicide prevention counsellor.
this video will be played at one of the clam meetings in march 2016.. the content is kind of old news because it is a recut version of a previous video produced for the elder's school.
however, it's still significant because it shows that the organization still has dissenting brothers in positions of leadership.. my thanks to the leaker.
feel free to claim credit here.
At the end of the video, I couldn't figure out if that creepy elder was thanking Jehovah for the magical recovery of a suicidal sister or if he was really happy that he was getting cookies.
I rarely watch WT propaganda but I did watch this video. Very, very disturbing. So disturbing in fact, that two suicide prevention organizations now have a copy of that video in their inbox.
I sent an email and the video to:
Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention
World Health Organization - Suicide Prevention
I think that the rest of the world needs to know how dangerous the JW cult is for people with mental health problems. I don't know if my emails will be considered, but maybe both organizations (and other suicide prevention associations) need to be flooded with emails from concerned people.
jhine: I know that they had to choose between a man or a woman and maybe would have chosen either , but are they implying that women are mentally more unstable ?
Of course it was deliberate. The woman is always cast as the victim - that way, the men get to look like wonderful exemplary men who are without blemish. Ugh...it made me ill to watch the elders go inside that single woman's home and sit there while she was alone. Ugh. Never in a million years would I want that to happen to me.*
*actually, it did happen to me. When I was thirteen years old - two elders muscled their way into my house when I was alone. It pissed me off then and nothing has changed - it still pisses me off.
we once experienced, the "you'll die at armegeddon," fear instilled into us as jw's.. was that worse or better than the fear of eternal torment instilled by more conventional religions?.
john spong gives his view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkah3hemv3m.
You just don't want to be a choir boy (or whatever they called it)
Altar boy.
haha, just thinking of all the "recovering Catholics" I have met in the past 35 years
Me too. My friend calls herself a "lapsed Catholic". She is an accomplished and published author and a few years back she published a book of poetry. Some really incredible poems in it that explore the Catholic experience.
after a number of high profile cases where both children and survivors clearly weren't adequately protected, the charity commission here in the uk launched an investigation into the wbts as a whole here in britain.
the main concerns are around the child safeguarding policies being inadequate.
wbts have fought every step of the way so far.. wbts have been to the high court, who told them to complain to the proper tribunal.. wbts have been to the proper tribunal, who told them that too darn right there were suitable grounds for the charity commission to want to investigate their inability to protect children.. and now the wbts have gone back to the court of appeal to demand that the charity commission inquiry be halted.. i hope the court of appeal tells them that, yes, they too need to have proper safeguarding measures for children and to get on with co-operating with the investigation.. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-defends-its-investigation-into-jehovahs-witness-charity-in-the-court-of-appeal.
Mephis: The only good thing about the taxpayer subsidising them (as they're a charity) is that it does allow their refusal to behave like responsible grown-up to be investigated.
Exactly.
Along with tax-free status comes accountability. The Watch Tower's tax-free status is going to bite them in the ass.
This is such a bad, bad example. It doesn't even make sense.
The "unpaid labourers" of Egypt were conquered slaves. Of Egypt.
How the hell do they get "other sheep" from the conquered slaves of Egypt??
Are the "other sheep" previous enemies?
"...in fetters they will come over"....that must be the line that means that the JWs are the same as the slaves of Egypt.
Stupid stupid "prophetic interpretation". Pfffft. These guys are losing the script.
wt claims their website is the 'most translated' and claims over 750 languages.
but in the drop down language menu there are only about 50. so where are the others?
The Bible is available in 909 languages from here:
yes - awake!
1994 may 22 p.2 youths who put god first (3-15).
"in former times thousands of youths died for putting god first.
sbf: And I don't know that thousands of children have died because of no blood. No doubt many have, but thousands?
Yes. Thousands.
70 years of blood ban...over 100,000 deaths since it started, 1000 per year.
Of course 'thousands of children' is accurate.
http://committingsociology.com/2016/01/15/transcending-religious-ideas-is-easy-transcending-religious-thinking-is-hard/.
why god won’t go away.
january 15, 2016 john faithful hamer .
Thanks, Barbara.
A really great article.
interesting video, shame it wasn't about jws.
http://youtu.be/-1bdbkjbzzy.
what a would be your top 5 shocking things you found out about jws on the internet?.
Terry: Stupidity and indoctrination are insurmountable.
Absolutely.
There will always be martyrs. It is a human complex. I think of my JW sister, so self righteously and pridefully saying, with a twinge in her pathetic voice "Oh....woe is me. The doctors here can't operate on me. They don't have bloodless surgery." Defiantly resisting any discussion on the matter. "The Watchtower says. And they have da Troof, you know. That is just the way it is."
Do or die. She thrives on it. It keeps her from taking responsibilty for making her own decisions.
http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2016/01/jehovahs-witnesses-history-brooklyn-properties-selling/.
how the jehovah’s witnesses acquired some of brooklyn’s most insanely valuable properties by.
suzanne spellen 1/26/16 .
I am going to chime in on the nit picking...
Wasn't it Knorr and Franz who came down on Christmas and birthdays?
My mom was raised a JW - she was born in 1933. And she has books with "Merry Xmas" and "Happy Birthday" written in them given to her by her JW parents (very strict followers). I asked her about this and she said it wasn't really 'hard doctrine' until around the war. And Rutherford had very little influence - he was of poor health, was living out in California, and died in 1942.
