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  CRA screwup for WT Canada?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay, they've posted their 2015 return - i am very confused.. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form23-eng.action?b=119288918rr0001&fpe=2015-08-31&n=watch+tower+bible+and+tract+society+of+canada+%2f+la+tour+de+garde+soci%c3%a9t%c3%a9+de+bibles+et+de+tracts+du+canada&r=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3a80%2febci%2fhaip%2fsrch%2fbasicsearchresult-eng.action%3fk%3dwatch%2btower%26amp%3bs%3dregistered%26amp%3bp%3d1%26amp%3bb%3dtrue.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/311690001/canada-branch-finances-whats-going-on?.

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  OrphanCrow

  LostandFound: I heard from a source that they were actively looking to move bulk funds to territories that are secure and out of reach of western authorities, even as far as Asia.

  That makes sense.

  Wouldn't you do the same thing if you thought that your 'nest egg' was at risk of being seized? I don't believe for a minute that the WTS is just going on with "business as usual" when they know damn well that Australia will be coming up with a redress scheme that will put the WTS on the hook for millions, if not billions.

  The WTS can hear the footsteps - the UK is next. And, in the UK, if you owe money, your assets in other countries can be seized. Not sure about Australia and Canada. But it wouldn't surprise me if it is similar for those countries - the ties and similarities in legal structure are close between them.
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  CRA screwup for WT Canada?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay, they've posted their 2015 return - i am very confused.. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form23-eng.action?b=119288918rr0001&fpe=2015-08-31&n=watch+tower+bible+and+tract+society+of+canada+%2f+la+tour+de+garde+soci%c3%a9t%c3%a9+de+bibles+et+de+tracts+du+canada&r=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3a80%2febci%2fhaip%2fsrch%2fbasicsearchresult-eng.action%3fk%3dwatch%2btower%26amp%3bs%3dregistered%26amp%3bp%3d1%26amp%3bb%3dtrue.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/311690001/canada-branch-finances-whats-going-on?.

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  OrphanCrow

  I couldn't handle the confusion anymore so I phoned Revenue Canada this morning and asked them about the Canadian WTS' return and why they no longer show assets and very little donations.

  The person I talked to was very surprised that the return showed what it did and she was almost positive that the 2015 return that is displayed on the website is in error. She does not think that the return posted is actually the correct one for the WTS in Canada.

  She is contacting her supervisor and will be looking into why the return seems to be inaccurate. "Look back in about two weeks and if the return hasn't changed by then, contact us again". And "thanks for getting a hold of us as this charity is a very large and active one and I cannot see them making major changes without us knowing about it."

  So...patience, Grasshopper...
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  CRA screwup for WT Canada?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay, they've posted their 2015 return - i am very confused.. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form23-eng.action?b=119288918rr0001&fpe=2015-08-31&n=watch+tower+bible+and+tract+society+of+canada+%2f+la+tour+de+garde+soci%c3%a9t%c3%a9+de+bibles+et+de+tracts+du+canada&r=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3a80%2febci%2fhaip%2fsrch%2fbasicsearchresult-eng.action%3fk%3dwatch%2btower%26amp%3bs%3dregistered%26amp%3bp%3d1%26amp%3bb%3dtrue.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/311690001/canada-branch-finances-whats-going-on?.

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  OrphanCrow

  The donations that come from the individual congregations must get sent directly to New York - do not pass "go" and do not collect $$$...go directly to Crooklyn.

  The donations from each congregation exceed the total amount of revenue declared by the Canadian branch office.

  http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/basicsearchresult-eng.action?k=jehovah%27s+witnesses&s=registered&p=1&b=true
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  CRA screwup for WT Canada?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay, they've posted their 2015 return - i am very confused.. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form23-eng.action?b=119288918rr0001&fpe=2015-08-31&n=watch+tower+bible+and+tract+society+of+canada+%2f+la+tour+de+garde+soci%c3%a9t%c3%a9+de+bibles+et+de+tracts+du+canada&r=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3a80%2febci%2fhaip%2fsrch%2fbasicsearchresult-eng.action%3fk%3dwatch%2btower%26amp%3bs%3dregistered%26amp%3bp%3d1%26amp%3bb%3dtrue.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/311690001/canada-branch-finances-whats-going-on?.

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  OrphanCrow

  ILove: Wow OrphanCrow you're amazing at finding scandals!

  Thanks. But credit goes to berrygerry who found the tax filing.
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  CRA screwup for WT Canada?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay, they've posted their 2015 return - i am very confused.. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form23-eng.action?b=119288918rr0001&fpe=2015-08-31&n=watch+tower+bible+and+tract+society+of+canada+%2f+la+tour+de+garde+soci%c3%a9t%c3%a9+de+bibles+et+de+tracts+du+canada&r=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3a80%2febci%2fhaip%2fsrch%2fbasicsearchresult-eng.action%3fk%3dwatch%2btower%26amp%3bs%3dregistered%26amp%3bp%3d1%26amp%3bb%3dtrue.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/311690001/canada-branch-finances-whats-going-on?.

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  OrphanCrow

  Hard to believe they would shut down Canadian Bethel when they have been shifting all the printing there from the USA.
  Doc

  But...how can they print in Canada with only $9,676 in assets? I had said earlier that it was zero...but under 10 grand is like zero when your assets used to be over $160 million.

  Who owns the Canadian branch assets like the new printing presses and such? Are those assets just part of the New York assets now? Paper shuffling? And why? Avoidance of Canadian tax laws?
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  The Truth that gives you eternal life

  by RolRod in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not sure if this is the proper place to post this.

  i have a book, it's 8.5 x 11. the cover looks exactly like the old "truth" book, complete with bible embossed on the cover.

  slight title change.

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  OrphanCrow

  Rod, this old thread might have the information you are looking for:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/174077/1975-coverup-compare-68-81-truth-book-scans?page=1&size=20
  
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  CRA screwup for WT Canada?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay, they've posted their 2015 return - i am very confused.. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form23-eng.action?b=119288918rr0001&fpe=2015-08-31&n=watch+tower+bible+and+tract+society+of+canada+%2f+la+tour+de+garde+soci%c3%a9t%c3%a9+de+bibles+et+de+tracts+du+canada&r=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3a80%2febci%2fhaip%2fsrch%2fbasicsearchresult-eng.action%3fk%3dwatch%2btower%26amp%3bs%3dregistered%26amp%3bp%3d1%26amp%3bb%3dtrue.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/311690001/canada-branch-finances-whats-going-on?.

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  OrphanCrow

  talesin: It looks like they may be shutting down the TO Bethel?

  Yup. It sure looks that way.

  Consolidation. Protection of assets and holding them close to their chest.

  I think they are preparing for legal problems and trying to block the seizure of assets to pay off court settlements and victim funds in Australia.
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  its the begining part two

  by pepperheart in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  its the begining of the end for jws in exjw websites i have found all these branch headquaters have closed down.

  ireland.

  estonia.

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  OrphanCrow

  The Canadian Branch might be the next to go:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5646117907726336/cra-screwup-wt-canada

  Consolidation. Protecting their assets and holding them close to their chest.
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  JWs win 2015 Bronze Telly Award in the “Online Video News Feature”

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jworg is carrying a "news" article concerning their recent win of a telly award.. i don't need to add to the jworg website hits, so here is the award listed on the telly award website:.

  https://www.tellyawards.com/winners/list/?l=jehovah%27s&event=16&category=3&award=b.

  2015 online video bronze winners.

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  OrphanCrow

  boc: What would be the response if I shared News Update: Jehovah's Witnesses Moving Forwardon my FB account with the caption "Watch this Telly-Award-winning piece featuring Donald Trump's son-in-law"?

  Oh geez...I didn't know that.

  Now that is funny.

  *snicker*
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  CRA screwup for WT Canada?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay, they've posted their 2015 return - i am very confused.. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form23-eng.action?b=119288918rr0001&fpe=2015-08-31&n=watch+tower+bible+and+tract+society+of+canada+%2f+la+tour+de+garde+soci%c3%a9t%c3%a9+de+bibles+et+de+tracts+du+canada&r=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3a80%2febci%2fhaip%2fsrch%2fbasicsearchresult-eng.action%3fk%3dwatch%2btower%26amp%3bs%3dregistered%26amp%3bp%3d1%26amp%3bb%3dtrue.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/311690001/canada-branch-finances-whats-going-on?.

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  OrphanCrow

  JWdaughter: Are there details anywhere for federal auditors? It looks fraudulent.

  Reporting detailed financial information does not apply to the Watch Tower in Canada.

  Complete Schedule 6 if any of the following applies to the charity:
  a) The charity's revenue exceeds $100,000.
  b) The amount of all property (for example, investments, rental properties) not used in charitable activities is more than $25,000.
  c) The charity has permission to accumulate funds during this fiscal period.

  The Canadian WT is reporting less than $100,000 in revenue for 2015.