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Sophie gives even more than ice cream money to the WT

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problemaddict: Oh wow! Orphan Crow for the win!

I have to credit a friend on facebook for this little gem. He posted it this morning. I was floored when I saw it.

I remember as a child being so intrigued and jealous of my friends at school who would talk about their Sunday School activities and I also remember how the things that the churches of the world did with the kids would be scoffed at by the JW parents.

"We don't need to do coloring stuff and things with our children. They study the Bibble." Said self righteously and pompously. With a snicker thrown in for good measure.

How things change. Children activities with a Watchtower twist. Madness.

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Sophie gives even more than ice cream money to the WT

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Okay, okay...I will break my principle.

Yes. This is for real.

See for yourselves on the jworg site:

Be Generous Towards Jehovah

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Sophie gives even more than ice cream money to the WT

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villageidiot: OrphanCrow, could you give us a link?

So sorry. I can't on general principle.

I have made a promise to myself not to link to the JWorg site. I am sure a simple search on their site will turn it up.

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Sophie gives even more than ice cream money to the WT

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Whatever happened to telling children about real charity like giving to the poor and needy?

Since when is Jehovah the one who is poor and needy?

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Sophie gives even more than ice cream money to the WT

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Mama Jackson Cashes in Ice Cream Money

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michael jackson's estate sells stake in sony/atv music catalogue for $750m.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/sony-michael-jackson-music-catalog-1.3491828.

michael jackson's estate has agreed to sell its remaining stake in a lucrative music catalogue to sony corp. for $750 million us, the entities announced monday.the agreement for jackson's half-share of the sony/atv music publishing catalogue will give the company sole ownership of works by the beatles, bob dylan and other hit making musicians, including eminem and taylor swift.the deal is another posthumous blockbuster deal for jackson, whose estate has erased the singer's massive debts through a mixture of new music and movie ventures and re-releases of the singer's most popular music.jackson's estate benefits his mother and three children, known as prince, paris and blanket.. read full article at link.

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Oh...I can see them. I just have no clue how you put them there. I don't have a mac.

Maybe only mac owners have money bags.

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Judgment handed down by Court of Appeal in legal challenge to Charity Commission inquiry opened in 2014

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this is good news.

the wt have lost in their attempt to stop the uk charity commission's inquiry into their affairs.

however, the wt is still digging in their heels about turning documents over to the charity commission.https://www.gov.uk/government/news/court-of-appeal-gives-judgment-in-court-case-by-jehovahs-witness-charityjudgment handed down by court of appeal in legal challenge to charity commission inquiry opened in 2014.today, the court of appeal handed down its judgment regarding the commission’s statutory inquiry, opened in 2014, into the watch tower bible and tract society of britain (the leading jehovah’s witness charity in the uk).

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The Watchtower says it plans to appeal to the Supreme Court now. They are still kicking and screaming.

http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/jehovahs-witness-charity-appeal-supreme-court-charity-commission-inquiry/governance/article/1387620

Jehovah's Witness charity to appeal to Supreme Court over Charity Commission inquiry

16 March 2016 by Rebecca Cooney

The judges ruled yesterday that the Watch Tower and Bible Tract Society of Great Britain was not entitled to apply for a judicial review into the scope of a statutory inquiry
The Watch Tower and Bible Tract Society of Great Britain has said it plans to appeal to the Supreme Court after the Court of Appeal ruled it was not entitled to apply for a judicial review into the scope of a Charity Commission statutory inquiry.
The Court of Appeal handed down a judgment yesterday giving WTBTSB, the umbrella charity for Jehovah’s Witnesses, permission to appeal to the High Court against the scope of a production order made by the commission as part of a statutory inquiry opened in May 2014.
But it rejected WTBTSB’s appeal to be allowed to seek judicial review of the scope of the inquiry itself.
After the inquiry into WTBTSB’s safeguarding of children was launched, the charity sought a judicial review of the decision to open the inquiry and of the production order demanding documents from the charity, saying both were too broad in scope.
This application was rejected on 12 December 2014 because the judge said the case should be taken to the charity tribunal, and an appeal to the tribunal made 10 days later was rejected in March 2015 because it had been made outside the 42-day time limit.
But WTBTSB argued before a Court of Appeal hearing on 10 February that it should be allowed to have its appeal heard as part of a judicial review, since the first-tier tribunal only had the power to quash enquiries, not to limit the scope.
A spokesman for WTBSB said yesterday: ""Naturally the trustees are disappointed that the court held that they were not entitled to challenge the scope of the commission’s inquiry by way of judicial review. The trustees have therefore asked the Court of Appeal for leave to appeal to the Supreme Court in order to resolve an important legal principle.
On the successful element of WTBTSB’s case, he said: "The trustees of Watch Tower Society of Great Britain are very pleased that the Court of Appeal agreed with their key submission. The First Tier Tribunal lacked jurisdiction to determine Watch Tower’s complaint that the Charity Commission’s production order was unlawful."
The commission declined to comment on WTBTSB’s plan to appeal to the Supreme Court.
In its response to the ruling yesterday, the commission said it planned to press ahead with its inquiry, but acknowledged that this would be subject to any appeals by the charity.

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Mama Jackson Cashes in Ice Cream Money

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michael jackson's estate sells stake in sony/atv music catalogue for $750m.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/sony-michael-jackson-music-catalog-1.3491828.

michael jackson's estate has agreed to sell its remaining stake in a lucrative music catalogue to sony corp. for $750 million us, the entities announced monday.the agreement for jackson's half-share of the sony/atv music publishing catalogue will give the company sole ownership of works by the beatles, bob dylan and other hit making musicians, including eminem and taylor swift.the deal is another posthumous blockbuster deal for jackson, whose estate has erased the singer's massive debts through a mixture of new music and movie ventures and re-releases of the singer's most popular music.jackson's estate benefits his mother and three children, known as prince, paris and blanket.. read full article at link.

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cappy: OrphanCrpw: 💰💰💵💵 Emoji should work on most platforms. You don't see these: 💰💰💰💵💵💵 ?

Nope...no idea what you mean. I am clueless.

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Judgment handed down by Court of Appeal in legal challenge to Charity Commission inquiry opened in 2014

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this is good news.

the wt have lost in their attempt to stop the uk charity commission's inquiry into their affairs.

however, the wt is still digging in their heels about turning documents over to the charity commission.https://www.gov.uk/government/news/court-of-appeal-gives-judgment-in-court-case-by-jehovahs-witness-charityjudgment handed down by court of appeal in legal challenge to charity commission inquiry opened in 2014.today, the court of appeal handed down its judgment regarding the commission’s statutory inquiry, opened in 2014, into the watch tower bible and tract society of britain (the leading jehovah’s witness charity in the uk).

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And another article:

Jehovah’s Witness charity loses appeal against Commission inquiry

David Ainsworth | 15 Mar 2016
The UK’s leading Jehovah’s Witness charity has lost an appeal for a judicial review of a Charity Commission inquiry into its safeguarding procedures, but won a review of a Commission order to produce documents.
The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Britain sought a judicial review of a decision in 2014 to open a statutory inquiry into its safeguarding policies for children and adults at risk. The inquiry was opened followed allegations that a congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses had allowed a paedophile to question his victims as a “disfellowship” meeting.
The charity also sought a review of a Commission order requiring it to produce, among other things, “All documents created on or after 1 June 2011 setting out or recording an instance or allegation of, or complaint about, abuse of or by a person who is or has been a member of the charity or a congregation charity”.
The case was heard in February in the Court of Appeal by Lord John Dyson, the Master of the Rolls – the second most senior judge in England and Wales – sitting with Lord Justice Richard McCombe and Lord Justice David Richards.
The three judges unanimously ruled against the appeal in the case of the statutory inquiry, saying that the Charity Tribunal was the proper place to hear a challenge.
However they allowed a review of the production order, because the wording of the Charities Act 2011 limits the tribunals’ ability to hear such challenges.
A Charity Commission spokesman said: “The Commission is pleased that the court unanimously dismissed Watch Tower’s challenge to the Commission’s decision to open an inquiry. This is a significant decision allowing the Commission’s inquiry to continue to progress. The challenge was dismissed because the court accepted the Commission’s argument that the First-tier Tribunal (Charity) was the correct place to hear Watch Tower’s challenge to the inquiry opened by the Commission. The Commission believes that the specialist Tribunal is the right venue for such cases and is pleased that the Court of Appeal has confirmed this.
“The Commission is disappointed that the Court of Appeal found in favour of Watch Tower in one respect, deciding that the challenge to the Commission’s order seeking documents from the charity should be heard by the Administrative Court rather than the Tribunal. This decision was reached because of the specific wording of section 320 of the Charities Act 2011, which limits the Tribunal’s jurisdiction to hear challenges to such orders.”

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Judgment handed down by Court of Appeal in legal challenge to Charity Commission inquiry opened in 2014

by OrphanCrow in

this is good news.

the wt have lost in their attempt to stop the uk charity commission's inquiry into their affairs.

however, the wt is still digging in their heels about turning documents over to the charity commission.https://www.gov.uk/government/news/court-of-appeal-gives-judgment-in-court-case-by-jehovahs-witness-charityjudgment handed down by court of appeal in legal challenge to charity commission inquiry opened in 2014.today, the court of appeal handed down its judgment regarding the commission’s statutory inquiry, opened in 2014, into the watch tower bible and tract society of britain (the leading jehovah’s witness charity in the uk).

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This is a really good article that gives the details of what has happened in court.

Frank Cranmer, "Jehovah’s Witnesses back in court – Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society" in Law & Religion UK, 15 March 2016,http://www.lawandreligionuk.com/2016/03/15/jehovahs-witnesses-back-in-court-watch-tower-bible-tract-society

Another instalment in the long-running dispute between the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Charity Commission…
In Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society of Britain & Ors v The Charity Commission[2016] EWCA Civ 154 the Court of Appeal has held that the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Britain (WT) may apply for a judicial review of the Charity Commission’s Production Order that it disclose sensitive documents as part of the statutory inquiry but dismissed an application by Watch Tower for review of the Commission’s decision to open an inquiry into the charity.