hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
Andro, my apologies. I was only responding to what you had said
Please stay on track so we know what we are supposed to discuss...you have wandered all over the place and made some pretty far fetched claims on a thread that you claim is about the sabbath
i am just trying to catch up...lots of claims being flung around here
hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
andromeda: I did not finished medical school due to a car accident. However, I have a sister who is a doctor, her husband is an anesthesiologist, my cousin and her husband are both doctors, my uncle is a doctor, my other sister is a nurse and have many other family members in various fields of medicine. As you can imagine this subject is a common subject amongs us.
Thank you for answering
That is quite the impressive medical family...all JWs?
Anyways, you can read the apocryphal books and draw your own conclusions
Oh
I was interested in which of the books you have read that you draw your conclusions about blood from. I assumed that such a decisive statement would be simple to back up. You know...so I don't have to go back and read all that copious amount of literature just to figure out what you are talking about. You know...communication...so that we are on the same page sort of, and so that I can evaluate your claims about blood. Blood interests me and seeing as you were the one who brought up your medical knowledge and such...and I also sort of like all that old 'sacred' literature you talked about
hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
Andro: Also I went to medical school...
That is so cool
I have wanted to talk to someone just like you for a long time now. I have so many questions you can help me out with
I hope you don't mind answering them for me.
To start:
1) what medical school did you attend?
2) what program were you enrolled in?
3) did you graduate and if you did, have you, or do you, work(ed) in the medical field?
I have more questions about specific noblood procedures and how they apply to the JW patient but I will get to them after you tell me a bit more about your level of knowledge and what your specialty/training etc has been
Thanks
hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
andro: The bible mentions many books some of which are not available to us today and I must believe that they are from God otherwise why mention them in the scriptures at all? Some that are available to us today I have read and touch the blood subject much more profoundly. No blood by any means
Please reference a source for this.
What books have you read that "touch the blood subject much more profoundly"?
Please expand
this guy was an elder.
i'm sorry if somebody already posted this.. http://abc7.com/news/former-oc-teacher-charged-w--sexually-assaulting-teen-boy/1458295/.
anybody know him?.
Sorry datadog...didnt mean to sound snarky. I have that problem sometimes...
My mistake - I made an assumption - I thought the article was the same one that was posted on this thread here:
hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
andro: the bible is easy to understand
Then you should have no need for this post
None
Unless you haven't stated your intentions clearly...
hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
Andromeda: I am really confused
Religion has a way of doing that
Maybe you should try attending a synagogue
client intake—csa questionnaire.
general legal advice and direction.
hi wifi.. i don't believe these have been seen before.. one is a general guideline given to elders who report a child safety issue in the congregation, and the second is the form they have to return to the legal department.. they are both recent forms.. the questionnaire has an interesting question at a.6 stating if the legal dept has advised to contact the authorities yes or no.
tdtt: On bullet #4 on the ADVICE document - I am sure thats for the protection of the confidentiality of the Victim.
Yea right.
You will note that they didn't define "victim". The way that the WT behaves, they define "victim" as the one accused of the crime
And, they also view the elders as victims. After all, it is the elders that get instructions to lawyer up, not the one who has come forward with the accusation
*to add - this form defines the elders as the clients of the WT lawyers. The victim, the one whom the crime was perpetuated on, has no legal representation. But the elders do. They are the clients
this guy was an elder.
i'm sorry if somebody already posted this.. http://abc7.com/news/former-oc-teacher-charged-w--sexually-assaulting-teen-boy/1458295/.
anybody know him?.
datadog: The Authorites were alerted FIRST! That's how shit gets done! There's no need to call WT Legal.
I don't think the authorities were alerted first. From the article that Robo posted:
Between June 12, 2007, and June 11, 2008, Gorski is accused of sexually assaulting 13-year-old John Doe at various locations in Buena Park.
In 2009, John Doe reported the abuse to their congregation. Gorski was removed from his position as an elder, but remained an active member of the congregation. In 2010, Gorski moved to South Carolina and began attending a Jehovah’s Witness congregation in nearby Charlotte, North Carolina.
John Doe recently reported the sexual abuse to authorities, and on June 21, 2016, Gorski was arrested by the Buena Park Police Department.
datadog:
That's how shit gets done!
Yeah...well, shit would have got done a lot faster if the WT legal dept had advised their clients (the elders) to report the crimes back in 2009 when they were made aware of it
i really fail to see how much actual "witnessing" is occurring with the trolley carts.publishers, usually pioneers, just stand or sit there not engaging anyone and count their time.. the only thing i notice that it's accomplishing is brand exposure for jw.0rg so the public is exposed to the logo and literature/poster card headlines.. take for example this "evening" witnessing by a pioneer elder while on summer holiday/vacation.. .
is this not a wth kinda moment when you consider the years of slaving, knocking on doors, business territory and bible studies we had to keep performing so we weren't branded a "weak" publisher?.
