The soul is a problem of philosophy.
No.
It is a problem of epistemology.
OrphanCrow
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Origin of Life
by cofty inin recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?
as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.
there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Alternatives to Blood Transfusions 1973 - pediatrics version
by OrphanCrow inthe hospital liaison committees got their start in canada in the early 70s.. 3 books/volumes were produced in 1973 and became the 'handbook' that was used by jws in negotiating the no blood care of jw patients who required blood transfusions.. james penton, in the third edition of his book apocalypse delayed, gives some background on how these 'medical' volumes came about:.
pg 430at the time of the establishment of the hospital committees, a number of large meetings were held in toronto at which numerous prominent canadian witnesses were present.
as a result of the "hospital work", three books containing photocopied articles from medical journals and the popular press were produced and bound at the society's toronto branch.
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OrphanCrow
Well, it looks like I have the title of this thread wrong. My copy is exactly the same as this one and from the information given...it is likely the full volume including adults, minors and pediatrics.
The handbook has sure grown since the time it was first compiled. This is the 2001 version of 10 volumes:
Contrast that abundance of material, that the HLC has at their disposal to use in negotiating a JW patient's care, with this new 'worksheet' examining blood belief. This is what the JW patient is basing their blood refusal belief on :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4oXVPm4nrmfTTUzcFVBRHh6b28/view
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Jehovah's Witnesses Alternatives to Blood Transfusions 1973 - pediatrics version
by OrphanCrow inthe hospital liaison committees got their start in canada in the early 70s.. 3 books/volumes were produced in 1973 and became the 'handbook' that was used by jws in negotiating the no blood care of jw patients who required blood transfusions.. james penton, in the third edition of his book apocalypse delayed, gives some background on how these 'medical' volumes came about:.
pg 430at the time of the establishment of the hospital committees, a number of large meetings were held in toronto at which numerous prominent canadian witnesses were present.
as a result of the "hospital work", three books containing photocopied articles from medical journals and the popular press were produced and bound at the society's toronto branch.
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OrphanCrow
If you all look at the letter that Trost wrote. It says it is a NEW edition ...and has a few more articles that deal with minors & adults.
Ah, yes, I see that.
It is too bad that Trost's letter isn't dated.
The volume likely went through a few additions and slight revisions during those early days of production. After all - it was being photocopied and bound individually to begin with. And, revised as need arose - the adult version would have come later - many technological surgical advances were done on the pediatric population first and then later implemented into adult care
*edit to add - I will have to take some time to go through the volume you have scanned and see if there are any additions to the hard copy of the book I have -
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JW child first pediatric patient to receive acute normovolemic hemodilution - 1970
by OrphanCrow inacute normovolemic hemodilution.
hemodilution simply refers to the process of diluting the blood with another substance.
there are various ways that this is done before, during and after the surgical process.
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OrphanCrow
vidiot: Ironic that the advances in "non-blood medicine" have come about as a direct result of transfusion-related advances.
For sure. "Alternatives to blood transfusions" is a misnomer. The alternatives were/are blood transfusions - transfusions of a patient's own blood. Their blood is/was drained and/or salvaged...and then transfused back into them.
That is one of the reasons why the supposed risk factors of blood transfusions that the WT has promoted about the dangers of blood transfusions is misleading - all the mechanical problems associated with transfusion of blood is still existent in the alternative procedures proposed in surgical practice - the alternative is still a blood transfusion.
Without blood transfusion technology in the first place, there would be no supposed alternatives.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Alternatives to Blood Transfusions 1973 - pediatrics version
by OrphanCrow inthe hospital liaison committees got their start in canada in the early 70s.. 3 books/volumes were produced in 1973 and became the 'handbook' that was used by jws in negotiating the no blood care of jw patients who required blood transfusions.. james penton, in the third edition of his book apocalypse delayed, gives some background on how these 'medical' volumes came about:.
pg 430at the time of the establishment of the hospital committees, a number of large meetings were held in toronto at which numerous prominent canadian witnesses were present.
as a result of the "hospital work", three books containing photocopied articles from medical journals and the popular press were produced and bound at the society's toronto branch.
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Credit goes to Kim for taking the time to scan this book. That was a lot of work - over 600 pages now archived and accessible. Valuable.
And much thanks to James Penton for updating his third edition of Apocalypse Delayed to include background on how this book came about. When I first came across a hard copy of this volume 5 years ago, there was no information about what the book was or how it came about. The book does not contain ownership information or copyright clearances. Thank you to James Penton for explaining why that is. (I knew he would know! Lol! I had speculated that Penton had been around the Canadian Bethel at the time it was compiled. The update is much appreciated and now I am waiting to read Penton's 3rd edition of Apocalypse Delayed - I have it on order - excited to see what else Penton has added)
Mike and Kim's video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKNYiTqmbc&feature=youtu.be
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Dr. Kevorkian endorses the WTS Child Sacrifice doctrine
by OrphanCrow inin 1966, he published an article, our unforgiveable trespass, in the journal clinical pediatrics, in support of jw parents denying their children blood transfusions and that article was used by the wts in their 1973 publication directed to the medical community - jehovah's witnesses alternatives to blood transfusions.. .
about who dr. kevorkian was at the time he wrote this article:.
http://www.biography.com/people/jack-kevorkian-9364141#early-career.
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Honesty: Is this publication available online?....
Now available:
Jehovah's Witnesses - Alternatives to Blood Transfusions
The Kevorkian article is on page 24 of the pdf
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JW child first pediatric patient to receive acute normovolemic hemodilution - 1970
by OrphanCrow inacute normovolemic hemodilution.
hemodilution simply refers to the process of diluting the blood with another substance.
there are various ways that this is done before, during and after the surgical process.
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To add a link to download the volume Jehovah's Witnesses - Alternatives to Blood Transfusions
Terry's story appears near the beginning of this volume, on page 15 of this pdf:
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Jehovah's Witnesses Alternatives to Blood Transfusions 1973 - pediatrics version
by OrphanCrow inthe hospital liaison committees got their start in canada in the early 70s.. 3 books/volumes were produced in 1973 and became the 'handbook' that was used by jws in negotiating the no blood care of jw patients who required blood transfusions.. james penton, in the third edition of his book apocalypse delayed, gives some background on how these 'medical' volumes came about:.
pg 430at the time of the establishment of the hospital committees, a number of large meetings were held in toronto at which numerous prominent canadian witnesses were present.
as a result of the "hospital work", three books containing photocopied articles from medical journals and the popular press were produced and bound at the society's toronto branch.
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OrphanCrow
The Hospital Liaison Committees got their start in Canada in the early 70s.
3 books/volumes were produced in 1973 and became the 'handbook' that was used by JWs in negotiating the no blood care of JW patients who required blood transfusions.
James Penton, in the third edition of his book Apocalypse Delayed, gives some background on how these 'medical' volumes came about:
pg 430
At the time of the establishment of the hospital committees, a number of large meetings were held in Toronto at which numerous prominent Canadian Witnesses were present. As a result of the "hospital work", three books containing photocopied articles from medical journals and the popular press were produced and bound at the society's Toronto branch. These were Jehovah's Witnesses - Alternatives to Blood Transfusions in Adults, Jehovah's Witnesses - Alternatives to Blood Transfusions in Minors, Jehovah's Witnesses - Alternatives to Blood Transfusions. Most of the material in them was compiled by Alex Tost, a former Watchtower missionary and chemist from Hamilton, Ontario. Interestingly, in preparing these books, no attention was paid to copyright laws.Penton mentions that the book contains medical studies and clippings from popular press but it also contains legal writings by Glen How and it contains a section of clippings from WT literature supporting the JWs' choice to refuse blood transfusions.
This is the book that was used by the JWs who were negotiating with doctors and hospitals in the 70s. The book carried a lot of weight - the introduction contained a veiled threat that legal problems would arise if the JW patient's wishes (the WT wishes) weren't adhered to, and that threat was backed up by the weight of Glen How's legal articles contained in the volume.
I am grateful to the person(s) who took the time to make one of these volumes available as a digital file, along with a letter by Alex Tost outlining the use of the books. This volume that has been digitized is the pediatrics version.
Download entire volume and Tost letter here:
Jehovah's Witnesses - Alternatives to Blood Transfusions
A couple links to posts I have made previously concerning material I have found in this volume/book:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289504/dr-kevorkian-endorses-wts-child-sacrifice-doctrine
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Canadian Appeal Court decision made the news: Judges can overturn unfair church edicts
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://news.nationalpost.com/news/religion/alberta-appeal-court-rules-judges-can-overturn-unfair-church-edicts.
the other day, this court decision was posted on jwn along with a link to the court document, but few expected the media to pick up the story.
so to all involved, i understand it was a surprise to see the story in print.
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Well,Vidiot, I think that this case could play out strangely. It will be hard to predict
The irony is not lost on me - the Jehovah's Witnesses are credited with shaping the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms - and now they are getting challenged under that same charter. Ironic and historically significant...I think this case has the potential to shift power significantly in favor of individual rights.
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Canadian Appeal Court decision made the news: Judges can overturn unfair church edicts
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://news.nationalpost.com/news/religion/alberta-appeal-court-rules-judges-can-overturn-unfair-church-edicts.
the other day, this court decision was posted on jwn along with a link to the court document, but few expected the media to pick up the story.
so to all involved, i understand it was a surprise to see the story in print.
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Vidiot, there is some political context in Canada that could be relevant.
Religious freedom office replaced with new 'office of human rights'
May, 2016:
Justin Trudeau's Liberal government has replaced the Office of Religious Freedom created by the previous Conservative government with an office focused more broadly on human rights.
Foreign Affairs Minister Stéphane Dion announced the creation of the new Office of Human Rights, Freedoms and Inclusion in a release late Tuesday.
Andrew Bennett was appointed as Canada's ambassador for religious freedom in 2013. The new office will expand on his work "under a comprehensive vision that includes all human rights," the release said.
The budget allocated for the previous office now has been tripled to $15 million.Randy Wall's case will be about whether or not his civil rights were violated by unfair judicial practices/procedures undertaken by a religious group - it is not about religious doctrine or religious belief whatsoever.
The political climate in Canada should work in Randy's favour. And the repercussions could be broad - it could impact other religions who engage in activity that would be illegal in secular courts yet gets the nod by flying under the religious banner. Religious freedom will not mean the freedom for religion to oppress