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  Blood as the seat of life: The blood paradox among Afro-christians. 

  by TheWonderofYou in

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  i find this an interesting read.. https://www.degruyter.com/downloadpdf/j/perc.2016.14.issue-1/perc-2016-0003/perc-2016-0003.pdf.

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  Thank you, Wonder.

  Yes. Very interesting.
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  Russian BOE - congregations told to stop using the New World Translation

  by OrphanCrow in

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  it appears like the wt's bible is no longer to be used in russia.

  king james version only.

  from this forum: .

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  You're welcome, hecce.

  I thought some more...and read some more. I think this BOE letter was sent to the Russian Congregations.

  The WTS has had a long time to address the charges that they have changed the Bible. And now...a few days before the court hearing, they want to address it? Now they tell the JWs to use the "Synodal translation"?

  I had said the King James Version - because I was just following the thread title from the other forum. However, that may not be accurate as "synodal" is this:

  The Russian Synodal Bible (Russian: Синодальный перевод, The Synodal Translation) is a Russian non-Church Slavonic translation of the Bible commonly used by the Russian Orthodox Church, Russian Baptists and other Protestant, as well as Roman Catholic communities in Russia.
  
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  Russian BOE - congregations told to stop using the New World Translation

  by OrphanCrow in

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  it appears like the wt's bible is no longer to be used in russia.

  king james version only.

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  It appears like the WT's Bible is no longer to be used in Russia. King James Version only.
  

  From this forum:

  http://www.jwforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=19329

  

  Google translate:

  The Christian Assembly of Jehovah's Witnesses

  April 1, 2017

  TO ALL MEETINGS

  Theme: Using the Synodal Translation of the Bible in New Conditions

  Dear brothers!

  From the bottom of our hearts, we want to thank you for your active participation in the campaign to write letters. Your participation in this campaign was a clear testimony of brotherly love in action (1 Peter 2:17). At the same time, we realize that the most important thing that we can do to support our brothers facing persecutions is to offer our prayers to Jehovah for them.(Read 1 Timothy 2: 1--4.)

  As already reported, the Ministry of Justice wants to impose a ban on the activities of the Christian congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia. If the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation decides to ban, this will negatively affect more than 175,000 of our brothers and sisters, on their honorable duty to carry God's words from door to door.

  Perhaps opponents think in this way to hinder the preaching work, but our main tool is the Bible, and we can participate even more diligently in the preaching work (1 Corinthians 15:58, Ephesians 6:17). Although the translation of the New World has helped us for many years to better understand the truth and carry the message of the Kingdom of God to other people, but in the new conditions that have arisen in Russia, we must start using the synodal translation of the Bible again.

  This is necessary to avoid accusations of distortion of God's word from the world of Satan and discourage our opponents until the verdict of the Supreme Court.

  Your brothers,

  A copy of the district overseers

  Note for coordinators of councils of elders.

  Please ensure that this letter is read at the next meeting on weekdays, and also at a weekend meeting. Do not post this

  **edit to add - I have read this again...maybe this isn't directed to the congregations in Russia...not sure where this was sent to. It is worded as though it may be in surrounding areas...??
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  Chairman of the St Petersburg-based Administrative Centre of JWs issues press release - Forum 18

  by OrphanCrow in

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  according to the latest forum 18 article, this is what happened in russia on march 15:.

  http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2265.

  with immediate effect, a 15 march suspension order forbids the administrative centre and all its local religious organisations from "using state and municipal news media, organising and conducting assemblies, rallies, demonstrations, processions, picketing, and other mass actions or public events, and using bank deposits, with the exception of use for making payments connected with their economic activity, compensating for losses (damages) caused by their actions, and paying taxes, fees, or fines, and making payments based on labour contracts" .

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  dsp: I'm not saying there will be a bit of congestion, but not on the scale some seem to be talking up, not on the above numbers.

  Well...let's watch and see. It will be interesting.

  The impact will be (*or maybe not?) felt on an already poorly functioning Russian postal system. But, I am sure, once the other countries so nicely sort it all out and have it pre-bagged...it makes for an easy solution once it hits the Russian borders.

  Yes, overloads of political mailings, once the postal service figures out what is happening, is handled as bulk bagging - to make it easier on the guys down the line. I used to be a postie long ago...in another life, in a land far, far away...and I have bagged stuff like that up at the local level. At the very least, I snapped rubberbands around it before it was tossed in the "international" bag...to be sorted at least once more before heading out over the great pond
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  How much $$$$ will have been spent on the letter writing campaign to Russia?

  by OrphanCrow in

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  i have been following the jw chatter online about the letter writing that has been furiously undertaken by the jws around the world.

  a global effort done on the command of the gb in ny.. several jws have mentioned the cost of mailing letters (and packages of letters, where allowed) to russia and the cost is substantial.

  some jws have mailed dozens of letters.. the jw boast is that the russian postal system will be overwhelmed with letters.

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  Canadian International letter post rates - $2.50

  In addition, registered letters are allowed to Russia (around $20)

  No other mail allowed from Canada to Russia. No packets, no parcels. Just letters*.

  *max - 50 grams
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  How much $$$$ will have been spent on the letter writing campaign to Russia?

  by OrphanCrow in

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  i have been following the jw chatter online about the letter writing that has been furiously undertaken by the jws around the world.

  a global effort done on the command of the gb in ny.. several jws have mentioned the cost of mailing letters (and packages of letters, where allowed) to russia and the cost is substantial.

  some jws have mailed dozens of letters.. the jw boast is that the russian postal system will be overwhelmed with letters.

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  Ah...of course.

  And sorry about not following up on what you said on my other thread - thank you for directing me back to it. Frankly, though, I had ignored your last two posts on there. I didn't want to take the chance of having to scroll through WT propaganda again. That one post you made from the Proclaimers book made my head hurt.

  Sorry about that - I get kinda busy sometimes. This isn't the only thing I do or place I visit online.
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  Chairman of the St Petersburg-based Administrative Centre of JWs issues press release - Forum 18

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. beliefs

  according to the latest forum 18 article, this is what happened in russia on march 15:.

  http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2265.

  with immediate effect, a 15 march suspension order forbids the administrative centre and all its local religious organisations from "using state and municipal news media, organising and conducting assemblies, rallies, demonstrations, processions, picketing, and other mass actions or public events, and using bank deposits, with the exception of use for making payments connected with their economic activity, compensating for losses (damages) caused by their actions, and paying taxes, fees, or fines, and making payments based on labour contracts" .

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  dsp: And that's the very opposite to Christmas - when lots of letters (cards) are being delivered, not to a single address, but too all differant addresses.
  100,000 letters to one address = one van full of post bags = time / postman/woman easy.
  100,000 letters to 100,000 different addresses = very very time consuming.
  So thanks for highlighting that - it's a combination of what a lack of education and not celebrating Christmas does.....

  heehee...you are so cute.

  You have left out a critical component of what is happening inside of those postal systems. You are only looking at the end point and have disregarded the postal networks that those letters arrive through. Think of how a toilet flushes...the swirl before it all disappears...or gets plugged and can't pass. And imagine that toilet not working very well to begin with
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  How much $$$$ will have been spent on the letter writing campaign to Russia?

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. beliefs

  i have been following the jw chatter online about the letter writing that has been furiously undertaken by the jws around the world.

  a global effort done on the command of the gb in ny.. several jws have mentioned the cost of mailing letters (and packages of letters, where allowed) to russia and the cost is substantial.

  some jws have mailed dozens of letters.. the jw boast is that the russian postal system will be overwhelmed with letters.

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  Thank you darkspliver. As always, your posts remind us that we don't all have the time to devote to scroll through and scan and every one of the threads as you do. Your commitment and devotion is much appreciated.

  Something else I read was that some JWs were going out and deliberately buying thick paper and envelopes to increase the weight of the letters they were sending. Which, of course, increased the postage cost.

  Your estimated guess is 70 million $US (I will follow your link...haven't read it yet)

  Whoa...that i$ quite the charitable effort
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  How much $$$$ will have been spent on the letter writing campaign to Russia?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been following the jw chatter online about the letter writing that has been furiously undertaken by the jws around the world.

  a global effort done on the command of the gb in ny.. several jws have mentioned the cost of mailing letters (and packages of letters, where allowed) to russia and the cost is substantial.

  some jws have mailed dozens of letters.. the jw boast is that the russian postal system will be overwhelmed with letters.

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  Another piece of JW chatter I heard - some JWs are sending letters to the Russian embassies in their own countries.
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  How much $$$$ will have been spent on the letter writing campaign to Russia?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been following the jw chatter online about the letter writing that has been furiously undertaken by the jws around the world.

  a global effort done on the command of the gb in ny.. several jws have mentioned the cost of mailing letters (and packages of letters, where allowed) to russia and the cost is substantial.

  some jws have mailed dozens of letters.. the jw boast is that the russian postal system will be overwhelmed with letters.

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  Richard, your calculations are based on US figures. Some countries are paying more for postage and I have read accounts of single JWs sending 20-30 letters just themselves. "6" each is really low - that is only one to each official and there are many JWs who are determined to "make up for those who can't or don't write". And don't forget the army of JW children called into action.

  It's a good start, though. Your estimate is on the low side but that is good. I would use it as a minimum number. 27.6 million is a pretty large investment.