Oh.
So that is what the '75 fiasco was.
A test.
It was a test. A frigging test.
For a god that is supposed to be able to see into a person's heart, Jah sure likes to waste time in playing games.
OrphanCrow
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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure
by pale.emperor inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.
no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.
instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .
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Child abuse royal commission: Justice McClellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy
by OrphanCrow inchild abuse royal commission: justice mcclellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy.
every major australian church has been cautioned to better protect children or risk illegitimacy.in a speech to the national council of churches, the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse chairman justice peter mcclellan urged religious leaders to act on his recommendations.
"what we can be certain of is that any institution which does not acknowledge past wrongs and the need for change will lose the confidence of australians," he said via a recorded video.. read more and watch video of speech (26.02 long) at link:.
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Child abuse royal commission: Justice McClellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy
Every major Australian church has been cautioned to better protect children or risk illegitimacy.
In a speech to the National Council of Churches, the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse chairman Justice Peter McClellan urged religious leaders to act on his recommendations.
"What we can be certain of is that any institution which does not acknowledge past wrongs and the need for change will lose the confidence of Australians," he said via a recorded video.read more and watch video of speech (26.02 long) at link:
*thank you to reddit poster snuffinhuffin for this quote:
at 16:34:
""The majority of the allegations we have received, have emerged from faith-based institutions. This inevitably raises the question, why? Why is it that in institutions which proclaim faith in god, and embrace the highest ethical and moral principles, so many children have been abused? Why do some people who proclaim their faith, and have accepted a life of religious endeavor, breach their obligations to children? Is there something in either the structure, culture or personal qualities of members of the churches and other religious bodies, whether lay or ordained, that gives them such a prominent place amongst defenders?"
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May 15, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Regular Pioneers
by wifibandit inmay 15, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: regular pioneers.
uk version.
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waton: WTBtS uses the reported free hours of jws as proof of their noncommercial charity status. so, they have, to my knowledge, never disciplined anyone for fudging the hours, upward.
Exactly.
As long as the department that records volunteer hours for the charity has numbers to submit to the tax man, they could care less how accurate the numbers are - just as long as the number is reported...that is all that really counts.
Go ahead and fudge the number of hours actually put in - it is the reporting of those hours that helps the congregations and, by extension, the WTS, stay tax free.
Hours spent in field ministry is "outreach work" done by charitable volunteers.
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BBC Programme Re. Contaminated Blood - Dub Blinkers
by BluesBrother inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qhmhc/panorama-contaminated-blood-the-search-for-the-truth.
an experienced j w of my acquaintance , who had best be nameless, urged me to watch this t v programme because it "proves the society were right all along in warning of the dangers of blood.. well, yes , it does in a way demonstrate that the potential dangers of blood products was not fully recognized.
in particular this is shown in respect of the aids/hiv virus which was a new threat when it occurred.. there were some important points deliberately ignored by my dub associate , though :.
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Where the hell is that f***ing edit button??
I forgot something - what about the JWs who are invested in the bloodless industry?
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BBC Programme Re. Contaminated Blood - Dub Blinkers
by BluesBrother inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qhmhc/panorama-contaminated-blood-the-search-for-the-truth.
an experienced j w of my acquaintance , who had best be nameless, urged me to watch this t v programme because it "proves the society were right all along in warning of the dangers of blood.. well, yes , it does in a way demonstrate that the potential dangers of blood products was not fully recognized.
in particular this is shown in respect of the aids/hiv virus which was a new threat when it occurred.. there were some important points deliberately ignored by my dub associate , though :.
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Ruby: your strange conspiracy theories regarding some people in the medical establishment being in cahoots with Jehovahs witnesses
My edit button is non-existent. Sorry that I missed your addition to your reply.
Conspiracy theory? How silly. Such a typical response to material you don't like or material that you don't have the where with all to look into.
Please, then, maybe you have a better explanation for the extraordinarily large numbers of Jehovah's Witnesses that work in the bloodless industry? What about the HLC members who climbed the bloodless ladder to world prominence in the PBM world? The JW doctor who wrote the textbook for BM? The bloodless centers that were established by JWs? etc etc
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BBC Programme Re. Contaminated Blood - Dub Blinkers
by BluesBrother inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qhmhc/panorama-contaminated-blood-the-search-for-the-truth.
an experienced j w of my acquaintance , who had best be nameless, urged me to watch this t v programme because it "proves the society were right all along in warning of the dangers of blood.. well, yes , it does in a way demonstrate that the potential dangers of blood products was not fully recognized.
in particular this is shown in respect of the aids/hiv virus which was a new threat when it occurred.. there were some important points deliberately ignored by my dub associate , though :.
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Ruby: But the point (that you are missing in your hurry to condemn my views to nothingness) is that Jehovahs witnesses are very very unlikely to compromise their position and it will take a change in the world outside and their use of blood for witnesses to not need to die because of refusing a blood transfusion.
But that has nothing to do with whether or not blood medicine will be eventually considered "old fashioned". Just because JWs won't compromise does not lead to the conclusion that "blood medicine will be considered old fashioned".
Your conclusion does not lead logically from your premise.
You do not have anything to base your assertion on that blood medicine will eventually be replaced other than what you 'think' and what you think is simply based on your assumption that JWs will not compromise.
New flash - JWs have compromised and they will continue to compromise whenever the WTS (PBM) tells them to. JWs do use blood. Every time one of them enters a bloodless program, they are using blood components. So-called bloodless medicine is built on blood technology and it is medicine that relies heavily on blood component technology.
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BBC Programme Re. Contaminated Blood - Dub Blinkers
by BluesBrother inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qhmhc/panorama-contaminated-blood-the-search-for-the-truth.
an experienced j w of my acquaintance , who had best be nameless, urged me to watch this t v programme because it "proves the society were right all along in warning of the dangers of blood.. well, yes , it does in a way demonstrate that the potential dangers of blood products was not fully recognized.
in particular this is shown in respect of the aids/hiv virus which was a new threat when it occurred.. there were some important points deliberately ignored by my dub associate , though :.
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Ruby: I think this will happen eventually because medicine seeks to acheive less and less risks in the medicines used even if those risks are very very low and even if so low as to be almost insignificant
Yes. That is why blood transfusions have become safer and safer until now, a blood transfusion is the safest medical intervention available.
The pursuit of alternatives to blood transfusion has given the world alternatives that carry more risks than blood itself. MORE risks.
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BBC Programme Re. Contaminated Blood - Dub Blinkers
by BluesBrother inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qhmhc/panorama-contaminated-blood-the-search-for-the-truth.
an experienced j w of my acquaintance , who had best be nameless, urged me to watch this t v programme because it "proves the society were right all along in warning of the dangers of blood.. well, yes , it does in a way demonstrate that the potential dangers of blood products was not fully recognized.
in particular this is shown in respect of the aids/hiv virus which was a new threat when it occurred.. there were some important points deliberately ignored by my dub associate , though :.
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Ruby: I just think that ...
So. You just think that but you have nothing to back up why you think that. You don't know why you think that the practice of blood transfusion will one day be considered very old fashioned but you think that anyways.
Okay.
Just a pipe dream then. Nothing substantial.
You have nothing at all on which to base your fantasy of a future without blood medicine. You are just thinking it and then saying it. Your thoughts are unsubstantiated and you are just using words that sound good but mean nothing.
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BBC Programme Re. Contaminated Blood - Dub Blinkers
by BluesBrother inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qhmhc/panorama-contaminated-blood-the-search-for-the-truth.
an experienced j w of my acquaintance , who had best be nameless, urged me to watch this t v programme because it "proves the society were right all along in warning of the dangers of blood.. well, yes , it does in a way demonstrate that the potential dangers of blood products was not fully recognized.
in particular this is shown in respect of the aids/hiv virus which was a new threat when it occurred.. there were some important points deliberately ignored by my dub associate , though :.
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OrphanCrow
Ruby, you didn't answer the question I asked. I asked "why" do you think that 'blood medicine' will be replaced by 'other methods'? Why do you think that 'other methods' can replace the use of 'blood medicine'?
Are you not aware that non-blood medicine includes components of blood? That all PBM programs use blood fractions and blood components? That so-called 'artificial blood' is made from either human blood or bovine blood?
What I am interested in knowing is if you have information that you base your assertion on that leads you to believe that blood as a medical intervention will no longer be needed and that "blood medicine" will no longer be used. If you have that information, and you are not simply regurgitating the bloodless industry promise of a future where blood is replaced with a synthetically manufactured product, please do share your source.
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BBC Programme Re. Contaminated Blood - Dub Blinkers
by BluesBrother inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qhmhc/panorama-contaminated-blood-the-search-for-the-truth.
an experienced j w of my acquaintance , who had best be nameless, urged me to watch this t v programme because it "proves the society were right all along in warning of the dangers of blood.. well, yes , it does in a way demonstrate that the potential dangers of blood products was not fully recognized.
in particular this is shown in respect of the aids/hiv virus which was a new threat when it occurred.. there were some important points deliberately ignored by my dub associate , though :.
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Ruby: i honestly think blood medicine will be replaced by other methods eventually
Can you expand on that? What do you mean by that? And....why do you think that?