Venus, it is your analogy that diverts the subject. YOU diverted the subject by picking a really, really bad analogy. Own your mistake. It is yours.
OrphanCrow
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If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!
by venus inmany people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.
in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).
it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.
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If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!
by venus inmany people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.
in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).
it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.
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OrphanCrow
Venus, please increase your awareness by reading this:
And then there is this:
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Zimbabwe has a new President.
by zeb ini watched the new president taking his oath of office.
well done mr president!.
rather than me repeat his words i suggest you go google and look it up.
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OrphanCrow
smiddy3: Mnangagwa was an old crony of Mugabe and implicit in his crimes ,all of Mugabe`s mates still hold office so I don`t see anything is really going to change in Zimbabwe and when the people realise that then what will happen .?
When will the people realize that?
I would say right about...now.
Zimbabwe: Robert Mugabe to get $10m payoff and immunity for his family
Robert Mugabe and his wife will receive a “golden handshake” worth many millions of dollars as part of a deal negotiated before the resignation of the ageing autocrat last week. The exact sums to be paid to the former president and his wife Grace are still unclear, though one senior ruling party official with direct knowledge of the agreement said the total would not be less than $10m.
The official said that Mugabe, who has been granted immunity from prosecution and a guarantee that no action will be taken against his family’s extensive business interests, would receive a “cash payment of $5m” immediately, with more paid in coming months.
The 93-year-old’s $150,000 salary will also be paid until his death. The 52-year-old first lady, reviled for her extravagance and greed, will then receive half that amount for the rest of her life.
Mugabe’s 37-year rule left Zimbabwe with a worthless currency, massive debts, an impoverished population and an estimated unemployment rate of more than 80%. Roads are rutted, many rural communities have no electricity, education is basic and healthcare almost non-existent. A life expectancy of 60 is one of the lowest in the world.
The first couple will be able to remain in their sprawling mansion known as the Blue Roof, in Harare. The state will pay for their medical care, domestic staff, security and foreign travel.read more at link
Well, it is appearing like those JWs who are reported to be working for Mugabe will be fine. They shouldn't lose their jobs after Papa Bob's golden handshake.
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Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children
by cha ching inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.
interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..
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OrphanCrow
Still MS, you really do have an issue with reading into words intentions and information that just simply isn't there.
I think that is called myopic vision or something like that...
Ah, no. Now I remember what it is - it is called ethnocentrism - the bane of all uninformed people
Still MS - your impressions are just that - an impression and that is all it is. Your impressions are meaningless with no substance.
At no time did I call the Western world "evil" - that is YOUR word. And, at NO time did I call Russia "fair and nice". Those are your words.
STOP putting words in my mouth (or, rather - into cyberspace)
All I am trying to do here is open up some eyes and brains for cult thinking/trained people so that they get a bigger picture of the world around them. The world does not revolve around the JWs and their myopic view of the world. The moon doesn't follow them around.
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Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children
by cha ching inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.
interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..
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OrphanCrow
sparrowdown: I'm sure if any kids do get "taken away" we'll hear about it on jwborg.
Of course. Hypocritical as always.
JW children are routinely taken away from their parents (made a ward of the court/state) in the States and elsewhere in order to administer life saving medical treatment to them. Countless number of JW children face removal from their parents' care in the Western world because JW parents refuse blood for them.
And, those cases don't make it to the org website. But, like you said, if a JW kid does get taken away from Russian JWs, it will be all over the org website and taken to the ECHR, shouted from the rooftops and whined about in their loudest voice.
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Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children
by cha ching inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.
interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..
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OrphanCrow
Gayle, Russia already does most if not all of those things
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Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children
by cha ching inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.
interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..
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OrphanCrow
Applauding????
I am applauding?
wow
I was pointing out the myopic ethnocentric and hypocritical view of those outside of Russia...that is all
Children get seized from parents lots of times in Western countries when and if the parents are breaking the law
I wasn't applauding. sheesh
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Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children
by cha ching inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.
interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..
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OrphanCrow
Yeah, I know, StillMS.
What Russia really, really needs is an American corporate theocratic organization to get 'em in line, right?
Oh, and who would that be??? Jehobah's organization?
That will work. Sure it will.
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Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children
by cha ching inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.
interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..
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OrphanCrow
JeffT: just because it doesn't like how they think, or what they believe.
That is an understatement
The children could be removed because the parents were involved in illegal activity. Not any different than many countries. That happens in Canada and the States too.
Want to risk losing your children? Do illegal things.
In Russia, engaging in practices that define you as belonging to an extremist (banned) organization is simply an illegal act. THAT is what will get children taken away. Doing things that are illegal will risk your children being removed from your care.
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Gucci Grace
by zeb ini recall jw saying with some pride that former president of zimbabwe, mugabe's wife nicknamed "gucci" grace due her spending habits is a jw.
is this correct?.
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OrphanCrow
It is possible that someone has mixed up Mugabe's wife with Nelson Mandela's first wife.
Mandela's first wife, Evelyn, was a Jehovah's Witness. (and, I think...Mandela's sister also was a JW)