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  Flat earth vs round earth

  by Jrjw in

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  my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

  what are people's thoughts on this?.

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  OrphanCrow

  atomat: nasa has not produced one genuine photo of the planet earth...

  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream
  
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  Flat earth vs round earth

  by Jrjw in

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  my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

  what are people's thoughts on this?.

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  kairos: No response to simple 6 minute video

  Atmospheric refraction

  *hint: mirage
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  Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism

  by slimboyfat in

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  in the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.

  i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).

  but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.

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  Fair enough

  But then your comment that it is the same thing doesn't apply

  It isn't the same thing
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  Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
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  in the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.

  i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).

  but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.

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  OrphanCrow

  It’s like arguing whether the sunset is beautiful.

  No, it isn't

  Beauty is subjective
  

  The "rules of the universe" do not exist within your subjective experience

  Feeling is subjective

  The "rules of the universe" are not

  "Feeling" has nothing to do with the rules of the universe
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  Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.

  i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).

  but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.

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  sbf: Where did they come from, if not from God? The idea that such laws can just exist of themselves and require no explanation seems unsatisfying somehow.

  "Seems" unsatisfying

  Eh..."seems" doesn't cut it

  "Seems" is sooooo unsatisfying. "Seems" answers nothing. Nothing at all. "Seems" is only (and nothing else) a self centered positioning that begs to have a rational answer for its existence but has no solid positioning to base its assumption on

  An "inch" on the other hand, is straightforwardly constructed, and I can't find the enthusiasm to press the point, when it seems so obvious.

  Exactly. Of course it is obvious

  So why are you obscuring the forest to spite the tree? Why can you not accept the simple and the obvious?

  If the simple and the obvious won't hold, then neither will anything else that you try to build on top of it.

  An inch is an inch is an inch

  The beauty ( and truth) in that concept cannot be ignored in favor of "I'm more interested in Pi than an inch so therefore I will ignore the inch"

  You disappoint me , Slim. I thought you were going to come up with at least the issues that mathematics encountered when it tried to define infinity and not just say: Oh, I like pi better than an inch. Therefore god

  
  
  
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  Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.

  i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).

  but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.

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  slimboyfat: How do you explain Pi without God?

  I used to take you seriously, sfb

  That comment, though, makes me question my perception of you
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  Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.

  i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).

  but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.

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  OrphanCrow

  sfb: An inch of what?

  An inch of anything and everything or nothing at all

  just an inch

  Do you not know what a "unit of measurement" is?

  "What" that inch is measuring has nothing at all to do with defining the inch

  The inch is defining the "what", the "what" that the inch measures does not define the inch

  Inch is distance and that distance does not change regardless of "what" it is applied to
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  The Scientific Method

  by cofty in

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  OrphanCrow

  nobody can answer my question lol.

  bullshit

  your question has been answered

  just because you won't accept the answer doesn't mean it didn't happen

  *to add: lol!
  
  
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  The Scientific Method

  by cofty in

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  what on earth is that quote supposed to disprove???

  Basically, it disproves you
  
  
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  Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.

  i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).

  but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.

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  OrphanCrow

  What I find confusing about these "different perspectives" as applied to science is this:

  An inch is an inch is a f***ing inch regardless of who is looking at it

  It is an inch and your positioning will not change that unit of measurement

  What label we stick on that unit is redundant and only is a reflection of our cultural positioning but it doesn't change that inch. It doesn't make that unit of measurement measure anything at all other than what it says it does