OrphanCrow

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  Two big points that need to be emphasized in JDub pedophile discussions

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i love watching the jw cart crashers on youtube and how the zombie, brain dead, we are so much better than you jdubs react.

  when they do talk a little about the two witness rule they will mention the need for proof and the testimony of the poor child is just not enough to take the inquiry any further.. the reason for calling the police is immediately is that dna can be gathered from the poor victim.

  this evidence is the second witness used for prosecution.

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  tiki: Parental education and awareness is vital.

  You are right about that, Tiki.

  However, that does not address the problem when the abuse is occurring within the family. Parents are often the abusers. And, if it is the father that is the abuser, the mother has so little power that nothing is or can be done.

  Educating parents about child sex abuse can often end up being education on how to avoid detection.

  Which leads me to the next point: Educating the public about the child sex abuse that is rampant within the JWs actually advertises to predators that the JW religion is a safe place for them. It becomes a two-edged sword.
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  What are the reasons for the the new electronic publisher card

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  please speculate.

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  Poopie: What are the reasons for the the new electronic publisher card?
  Please speculate

  Morph: Oh you dont have to invite speculation, thats coming

  Haha! I will join the speculation.
  

  Having electronic records will no doubt be for various reasons and the most obvious one is that we live in a digital world

  However, I have said this before and I will say it again... money/tax is one of the motivators

  The org is notorious for implementing structure and behavioral changes globally
  when it is necessary to comply with one or more country's regulations concerning tax and money matters.

  The org has been bragging about how they gained "public law status" in Germany. What this means is that the org must give the German tax office a membership list so that each and every member can be assessed for the amount of tax they owe to their church. This membership list is also tied into the banking system so that any capital gains that a church member has can be properly taxed and the bank turns over that tax amount to the appropriate church.

  Being a "public law status" church, in Germany, means that having a membership list is mandatory. Support for the church's activities must come from member taxation and/or donations.

  
  
  
  
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  Saskatchewan, Canada - Legal advice offered free of charge for sexual violence survivors

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this may be important to somebody who reads this.

  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sask-free-legal-advice-sexual-violence-survivors-1.4633023.

  saskatchewan survivors of sexual violence can now access two hours of free advice from a lawyer.

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  Oh wow.

  That post didn't turn out at all like I had made it

  Sorry...I tried to post a part of the article and a photo of somebody showed up instead

  The program is open to anyone who has experienced incidents like sexual assault, exploitation and harassment as well as historical sexual abuse.
  A police report isn't required, nor are there age or gender restrictions. However, the sexual violence had to have happened in Saskatchewan.
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  Saskatchewan, Canada - Legal advice offered free of charge for sexual violence survivors

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this may be important to somebody who reads this.

  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sask-free-legal-advice-sexual-violence-survivors-1.4633023.

  saskatchewan survivors of sexual violence can now access two hours of free advice from a lawyer.

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  This may be important to somebody who reads this

  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sask-free-legal-advice-sexual-violence-survivors-1.4633023

  Saskatchewan survivors of sexual violence can now access two hours of free advice from a lawyer.

  

  Read full article at link
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  Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

  judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

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  Canadian law is no different, Morph.

  Innocent until proven guilty

  https://www.canlii.org/en/sk/skqb/doc/2005/2005skqb165/2005skqb165.html
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  Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

  judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

  april 12, 2018. .

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  Morph: Crow, if there is not search warrant than you cant break into someones home and search no matter what you think you “know”.
  There is a process.

  I realize that. I am not unaware of the process

  And the process is playing out.

  My point was that if an accused holds evidence, then they cannot be proved guilty until that evidence is revealed

  How that plays out is dependent upon jurisdictional laws

  Getting a search warrant isn't fool proof. There was a JW abuse case in Canada (2005) where the "evidence" was collected from congregation files by a search warrant and that evidence was considered inadmissible. Case dismissed
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  Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

  judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

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  Bobby; he has stolen merchandise

  It's locked up. Nobody can access it.

  People know about it but I don't have the key to the place it is locked up in. I can't prove it.

  The thief has the evidence and nobody can get to it.

  Now what?
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  Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

  judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

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  Bobby: If he’s a thief that has stolen merchandise in his possession, then he’s not innocent, is he?

  Prove it

  If you can't prove that he has that stolen merchandise - he is innocent
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  Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

  judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

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  Bobby: Because there is a fundamental principle that governs all civilized societies; INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.
  The presumption is always that of innocence.

  Well, that is handy

  The one being accused holds the "proof" and they won't let that "evidence" be accessible.

  Good gig if you can land it.

  That would be like the thief who locks up all his stolen merchandise and then jumps up and down saying "I am innocent!"
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  2018 Courage Convention video invitation

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the video invitation for the 2018 convention is just creepy.

  i thought it was some parody at first as it seems 'dark'.it begins with a young man being pushed whilst standing at his locker and the voice over says that 'in critical times we need courage more than ever'.

  next, comes a clip of a male putting his hand on the shoulder of a female worker, the look she gives him would be enough to give him nightmares for the next year.

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  OrphanCrow

  The org has no shame

  Two social issues in the news this past year and they use that to promote their cult

  Pfffttt...the metoo movement and school bullying

  As though being inside the org offers a solution. Huh. One of the most dangerous places for a woman is inside the JW cult and I don't even want to talk about why school bullying has been in people's minds this past year