Posts by OrphanCrow

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JW stance on blood transfusions for animals?

by phats in

our dog needed some serius surgery recently & my wife (still in) was very concerned that if he needed a blood transfusion she thought this would constitute a misuse of blood.

i was stunned as never heard of this.. is this a thing?

i left 12 years ago & wondered if it's always been or introduced in the years after my leaving.. any info would be great.. phats.

OrphanCrow

phats: Our dog needed some serius surgery recently & my wife (still in) was very concerned that if he needed a blood transfusion she thought this would constitute a misuse of blood. I was stunned as never heard of this.

Well, your wife doesn't need to worry if the vet has some Oxyglobin hanging around.

Oxyglobin is an HBOC (hemoglobin based oxygen carrier) derived from cow's blood that is pretty much exactly the same as Hemopure. They are both made by the same company.

The difference between the two products is that Oxyglobin has been approved by the FDA for use in animals but Hemopure does not have approval for use in humans (unless you are a JW...then you can get the same blood product that is used for dogs).

JWs (and their dogs) can use cow's blood. And, the dog's blood product has been approved by the FDA.

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Will A Rapid Increase In Human Intelligence Lead To World Peace Between Governments

by Brokeback Watchtower in

with the exponential grow in computer processing power and deep mind studies of intelligence and ai and the possibility that we can hook up our minds to this super intelligence(elon musk's solution) and that this super intelligence can explore what is,, without human bias and selfishness and come to better non violent solutions to the big problems facing humans and all things.

i see a super intelligence if made in the best possible way would have to be without any built in bias obscures information and will be faulty.. i'm thinking that with great advancements in the fields of psychology, and science the human race will reap many benefits money may even become a thing of the past the way i see it.. being that we are humans capable of both good and bad this technology increase will mean some suffering from man's bad side it can't be helped but i do feel that man's evolution will move in a rather rapid exponential direction towards good by us coming to terms with recognizing our shadow(jung) and emptying it, this alone would stop a lot of warring and a much more sane relationship with other governments.

the more shadow projections we take back the better we get along with people the less we take offence, i see it becoming common knowledge in the future and more psychological profiles of world leaders up for grabs with this increase in information acting as a teacher for the public to tone down violent tendencies of these leaders.

OrphanCrow

Probably not.

Artificial Intelligence would likely see the best and most rational solution to the human species' problems as a simple one:

Extermination.

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Are there close parallels between Deuteronomy 32:8, Genesis 10 and the Ugaritic tablets?

by I_love_Jeff in

according to these sources (city of ancient ugaritic tablets found in 1928) , elyon divided up all the nations into seventy nations, one for each of his sons (elim) .

sons of god makes the most sense than the sons of israel-deut.

32:8 especially since there was no nation of israel listed in the table of nations.

OrphanCrow

You are most welcome, Mr. I_love_Jeff.

The Ugarit texts are quite fascinating.

I had the privilege (and pleasure) of taking a class from Dr. Foley in 1993/4 (?). At the time, he had a dig in Ugarit that he visited every second summer. I wish I could understand all that he taught and I wish I could remember everything that he lectured about. I do remember, though, that he was an incredible person and really, really smart.

Dr. Foley was responsible for demystifying the Old Testament for me. I owe a lot to him

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Zappa

by JRK in

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friends

i am stoked about going to see dweezil zappa in concert on thursday.

it is going to be a date night, and the person i am taking never had the chance to see his father frank in concert.

i know that she will appreciate the complexity and beauty of his music, as well as some of his off-color humor.. yes "humor does belong in music!".

OrphanCrow

JRK: he was also my Sex Ed instructor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMdhWRO4-dQ

Zappa brings back so many memories...parties and beer in the garage

I think this is my favorite Zappa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlIe5mBqIB4

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Brilliant Medical Advice from the Slave

by Vanderhoven7 in

not sure where i picked this up:.

self explanatory science and medical advice from the faithful and brilliant servant class in brooklyn________________________________________thomas edison, the inventor and electrician, of phonograph and telephone fame, has been experimenting with the new light "x-rays.

" and has succeeded in taking a photograph through oak eight inches thick.

OrphanCrow

The quack medical advice that was/is offered through the org/society is simply a reflection of the people who made up the early Bible Student movement (and that influence and legacy is still manifest today).

The Bible Students had several members who were alternative medical practitioners. If you trace the history of alternative medical practitioners and their legal struggle for the right to practice, you will find that the WTS' legal battles for "religious freedom" dove tail with the chiros and osteopaths fight for "medical freedom". The WTS' medical propaganda was solidly anti-AMA.

An example of how an early Bible $tudent$ influenced the WTS writings is Dr. S.N. Wiley. He was a medical doctor who had lost a patient after a reaction to the diphtheria anti-toxin. Needless to say, the WTS became one of the leaders in the anti-vaccine movement.

And, those wacky quack medical notions were usually attached to some kind of device or instrument that a Bible Student/JW wanted to sell - we must not forget the Judge's radioactive belt, the Abrams electronic box that was used at Bethel, Wm Hudgings 'asshole flusher'....etc.

The WTS' promotion of quack medicine and quack science is simply a reflection of those who have used the 'society' as a vehicle to promote ideas that wouldn't get accepted in mainstream circles.

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Are there close parallels between Deuteronomy 32:8, Genesis 10 and the Ugaritic tablets?

by I_love_Jeff in

according to these sources (city of ancient ugaritic tablets found in 1928) , elyon divided up all the nations into seventy nations, one for each of his sons (elim) .

sons of god makes the most sense than the sons of israel-deut.

32:8 especially since there was no nation of israel listed in the table of nations.

OrphanCrow

You might find this interesting:

The Gracious Gods and the Royal Ideology of Ugarit

In this dissertation, Dr. Foley argues for the "gracious gods" in the Ugarit text as being a royal apologia.

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Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia Interrogated by Masked Police

by pale.emperor in

http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-russia-ban-police-903021?utm_source=quora.

i guess the gb's idea of writing to the russian government last year didn't help?

now they have their names and addresses in which to raid their homes.. i sometimes wonder if the gb knew this would happen and wanted it to happen to ensure they'd be persecuted thus creating their own fulfillment of prophecy..

OrphanCrow

dubstepped: Wait, did they have even the Russian brothers write to the government? Please tell me they weren't that stupid.

That had already happened before the org had their global letter writing campaign.

I can't remember the year they did it but the Russian JWs had their own letter writing campaign in the years leading up to the Supreme Court hearing. It was during that earlier Russian campaign that the Kremlin got flooded with emails and the org was warned not to spam the government with emails so they resorted to the letter writing campaign.

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Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia Interrogated by Masked Police

by pale.emperor in

http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-russia-ban-police-903021?utm_source=quora.

i guess the gb's idea of writing to the russian government last year didn't help?

now they have their names and addresses in which to raid their homes.. i sometimes wonder if the gb knew this would happen and wanted it to happen to ensure they'd be persecuted thus creating their own fulfillment of prophecy..

OrphanCrow

More details here:

http://forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2372

And here:

http://forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2373

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2017 WTBTS Financial Statement Ireland

by Atlantis in

2017 wtbts financial statement irelandhttps://we.tl/f55k8sawsmatlantis!.

OrphanCrow

Shepherdess: Looks like the accounts for Ireland would be quite healthy, if they weren't sending all that money to the branch in Germany.

Hmmmm

Are the JWs in Ireland helping to pay the church tax for German JWs?

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Older Watchtowers and Awakes added on jw.org Online library

by AuntBee in

wt back to 1950, aw back to 1970, like the cd rom library... .

why?

lol.

OrphanCrow

Could this have anything to do with their recent copyright claims and attempts to block certain website(s)?

Would the org have to provide historical documents for research purposes to bolster their copyright claims? And if they don't, would it allow for others to make them available?