Atomant: Maybe the real reason for selling all these halls is to stock up on pinky rings and rolex watches.?
Or maybe... expensive property in Argentina?
delighted to see that my old congregation seems to have had its kingdom hall taken in the worldwide money grab.
eccles, manchester.
hall was in swinton but no longer appears on jw.org and the cong seems to be meeting in urmston.
Atomant: Maybe the real reason for selling all these halls is to stock up on pinky rings and rolex watches.?
Or maybe... expensive property in Argentina?
if there is a god, we have no idea of his power and if he created the universe or merely biological lifeforms on earth, etc.
but see a correlation with evolution and computer technology.
computer's began very basic, and as new coding is developed and new technologies created from the previous computers, the generation of computers, smartphones, technology, etc keeps evolving into more advanced life forms.
I think you have things a bit backwards
"If there is a God/Creator,computer technology followed the same pattern as evolution/DNA"
Of course computer technology follows the same pattern as evolution/DNA (well, it sort of does). There is a simple explanation - man developed computer technology - it is patterned from a human brain. Made by a human brain and designed like a brain.
No god needed
http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova.
project detail.
type: special projects.
Bill: Can't read Spanish.
Neither can I, Bill.
From the link (translated using google translate) and keep in mind that this is from 2015, 4 years ago:
Lorenz Reibling: "Political change generates confidence in the future of Argentina"
The president of Taurus, the successful international real estate developer, spoke with Inversor Global and commented on the current situation in Argentina. Do not miss out, because it can also mean an investment opportunity for you.
Lorenz Reibling, president and founder of Taurus, was in Buenos Aires. During his visit, in addition to supervising the projects that are being carried out thanks to the developer, he gave an overview of the real estate at a global and local level. Global Investor spoke with the specialist, with special emphasis on the Argentine real estate situation.
The chairman of Taurus referred to the difficulties to move capital that are "a feature of this market, which also presents many questions among those interested in channeling investments to Argentina."
For this characteristic, although your business has grown, perhaps you have not done it at the pace you would have liked. "But we have achieved incredible things in that period and we see a generational change in the decision makers, which gives us a lot of confidence in the future of Argentina," Reibling confirmed.
Why does Reibling's opinion matter?
Basically, because the company led by Lorenz Reibling has invested more than 3,000 million dollars in properties in 16 countries on 4 continents, which manages through its offices located in Athens, Atlanta, Boston, Dallas, Istanbul, Jacksonville, Munich, New York, Orlando, Toronto and Buenos Aires. In Argentina it has had a presence since 2006, its main investment being the Austral Park, the Scientific, Technological and Business Park of the Austral University.
Lorenz is also an advisor to the "MIT Center for Real Estate Development" and sponsor and member of the "Liechtenstein Congress", whose focus is the sustainability of the cities of the future and beyond his business activity, Lorenz devotes a large part of his resources and time as philanthropist and sponsor in various causes, forums, books, publications, documentaries and films about the Holocaust, Resistance to oppression and Genocide. He is Professor of History and Theology at Boston College and a Member of the Massachusetts Historical Society.
Argentina through the eyes of Reibling
The founder of Taurus Investment Holdings explained to Inversor Global that what characterizes the Argentine market and is not repeated in other parts of the planet is the lack of available financing for real estate projects.
"Also the prevailing system for commercial rentals is a unique feature. And, finally, the difficulties to move capital is also a characteristic of this market, which also presents many questions among those interested in channeling investments to Argentina ".
In this line, and despite this context, Reibling's business has grown in the country. "Maybe not at the pace we would have wanted but we have achieved incredible things in that period. Our Austral Park project is proof of that. So are the buildings we are developing and designing to accompany the growth of the country's leading universities. "
An investment opportunity for the future
Finally, Reibling referred to the opportunity he sees looking towards the future in Argentina. "We see a generational change in the decision makers, which gives us a lot of confidence in the future of Argentina," he said.
https://igdigital.com/2015/04/lorenz-reibling/
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I was interested in what (and where) Reibling's main investment in Beunos Aires was all about.
In Argentina it has had a presence since 2006, its main investment being the Austral Park, the Scientific, Technological and Business Park of the Austral University.
This is Austral Park's website:
https://www.parqueaustral.org/en/el-parque/quienes-somos/
Parque Austral is the ideal location for R&D companies and institutions that look to work in highly professional settings. Parque Austral fosters the development of new projects and ideas and promotes networking among execcutives, scientists and scholars.
Inspired by existing international parks, it is the first scientific, technological and business park in Argentina. The Park was created in 2008 by Universidad Austral to provide companies with additional value by granting them access to tax and academic benefits, as well as to a community of more than 500 experts in management, economy, finance, technology and innovation, to name a few.
Located within the Universidad Austral Campus, in Pilar, Parque Austral offers companies a safe environment with high quality services and infrastructure in beautiful natural surroundings.
Taurus, a global company with more than 35 years of experience in Canada, the United States, Latin America, Asia and Europe, is responsible for the development and operation of Parque Austral.
On the page about "Developer", it says this:
The development and operation of the Austral Park are in charge of Taurus Investment Holdings, a global company with more than 40 years in the market.
Founded in 1976 in Munich, Germany, as an investment adviser in "Real Estate" of high net worth families and financial institutions, it has become a leading global company with 2,000 million dollars in real estate assets and more than 1,860,000 m2 of offices, industries, residences, hotels and other properties acquired and developed successfully in the world.
Experience in the market, local presence and access to capital have allowed Taurus a strong position as owner and operator of commercial real estate in the United States, Canada, Argentina, Germany and Turkey. With 56 projects and project portfolios, the company permanently seeks to update its inventory, capitalizing on select investment opportunities.
In Argentina and the Latin American region, it operates through Taurus Americas
and...here are the photos that were selected to accompany the text describing the developer (lol! might as well get a plug in for the ol' WT):
And the location:
Parque Austral is located on the 96-hectare campus of Universidad Austral, in Pilar, a district known for its highly productive development, generated by the more than 160 companies housed at the largest and most modern industrial park in the country, its highly educated young population and a growing number of academic offerings, as well as other services and entertainment.
Strategically located on Ruta Nacional 8, km. 50 of Panamericana, it is only 40 minutes away from the city of Buenos Aires and Ezeiza’s International Airport. Route 6 is only five minutes away from the park. This route bypasses the city’s metropolitan region and connects the harbors in Ensenada and Campana with Route 9, which grants access to Mercosur through the Zárate Brazo Largo bridge and connects the park with the northern areas of the province of Buenos Aires and the provinces of Santa Fe and Córdoba.
With an area of 27 hectares, Parque Austral is a unique opportunity for companies interested in a location outside of the city of Buenos Aires in a setting that fosters productivity, knowledge exchange and high quality of life.
Located in front of the IAE Business School, meters away from the School of Biomedical Sciences, the Austral Teaching Hospital and the grounds where all undergraduate courses for the Universidad Austral are held, Parque Austral offers an environment of scientific and academic excellence.
I checked the map and it looks like Reibling's investment is sort of within spitting distance of the org's project in Nordelta. The Austral Park isn't all that far away from the walled community that the org will be setting up shop in.
this is a little hard to believe.
(2018 article).
this article must have slipped by me because i never heard of this before.. .
The grenade/landmines were simply WW2 artifacts that somebody (a relative of the JW) had picked up and saved. No biggie. Not planted and not an issue. It was only made into an issue by the media. That is the purpose of media (regardless of who the media "belongs to") - propaganda. It happens on 'both sides'.
http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova.
project detail.
type: special projects.
Well...seein' as you brought up Lorenz, Bill, check out this interview that Reibling gave in Argentina concerning the future of investing in that country.
https://igdigital.com/2015/04/lorenz-reibling/
Reibling identified the difficulty in moving capital into the country as an obstacle to investment.
The org seems to be able to move money around without much problem. Maybe they took Reibling's advice.
this is a little hard to believe.
(2018 article).
this article must have slipped by me because i never heard of this before.. .
Atlantis, there is a thread somewhere on here about the incident. The "explosives" were WW2 artifacts/souvenirs. An unarmed grenade or something like that.
*Here it is:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5973706577805312/jw-detained-putins-russia-accused-extremism
http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova.
project detail.
type: special projects.
Here is a description of the "gated community" of Nordelta:
http://www.diercke.com/kartenansicht.xtp?artId=978-3-14-100790-9&seite=151&id=17640&kartennr=4
Segregation in Buenos Aires – Gated communities (Barrios privados) |
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Beginning in the late 1980s, substantial parts of the greater Buenos Aires metropolitan area were transformed through private-sector initiatives. The key elements of this post-modern urban development process included new highway construction, the creation of private industrial parks, shopping centres and recreation facilities and the development of new gated residential estates in urban and suburban settings. Suburban developments alone cover an area half again the size of the city of Buenos Aires (Capital Federal). These major housing projects encompass several thousand housing units with integrated shopping centres. And, a story about Nordelta: Story of cities #46: the gated Buenos Aires community which left its poor neighbours under water |
http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova.
project detail.
type: special projects.
sir82: A shopping center?!?!?
Yup. A shopping center. In one of the most upscale areas in Buenos Aires. A private gated community where property values are through the roof.
And this org project isn't using volunteer labor - they have engaged an outside construction firm.
http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova.
project detail.
type: special projects.
http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova
PROJECT DETAIL
Type: Special Projects
Commitent: Asociación de los Testigos de Jehová
Project:
Start Date: 2018
End Date: 2020
Surface: 19.300 m2
Boulevard de la Plaza No 255, Nordelta, Tigre, Pcia. Buenos Aires
DESCRIPTION
The Jehovah's Witnesses’ Association retained CRIBA’s services to build its headquarters in Nordelta, an affluent Buenos Aires suburb. The project includes the construction of three residential and office buildings, a mid to large sized shopping center and an underground parking lot. CRIBA will also do landscaping work on the surrounding green spaces.
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Nordelta is one of the wealthiest areas of Buenos Aires.
Costantini created in 1999 the capital city's first exclusive gated community, Nordelta, a refuge for wealthy Argentines looking to escape the incessant petty crime and noise of even the most exclusive neighborhoods in Buenos Aires. Home to some 30,000, Nordelta features medical care, schools recreation and shopping - a city within a city, sometimes criticized for increasing social divisiveness.
my wife and i will be presenting in a class at the local university in a couple of weeks.
the class is about social media and psychology.
of course they talk about fake news and propaganda.
Not sure if this is what you're looking for:
Jwfacts has an response to vthe WT article that used that image: https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/disfellowship-shunning.