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  Setback

  by EdenOne in

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  i saw this coming since my mother-in-law's funeral .... the congregation's "love-bombing" over my wife had its impact.

  i watched her drawing closer and closer to her friends in the congregation.

  then she decided she would attend the memorial.

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  Alive!

  Simply, she, like most sincere Witnesses, allows her indoctrination to dictate her priorities in life. It's a sad fact, but I don't need to read more into it than what it really is.

  Eden

  You know, when I was completely indoctrinated and marching to the tune, that is exactly how I would have lead my life. Gulp.

  
  You and your wife obviously have love born out of twenty five years of life with each other - right now the more healthy and loving dynamics of your marriage are being contorted by the cult. Hold steady friend. May love have the last word (((( hugs)))
  

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  Does the Jehovah's Witnesses fall into category of being an organized cult ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  i think it does especially being that this organization is rigidly structured itself on formulated doctrines from a top hierarchy of men which are strictly enforced, among other reasons.

  what cults are.

  a cult is not necessarily a religious group, although religious cults are common, including breakaway sects from more mainstream faiths.

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  Hi

  Cheers for posting this.

  Is there website it is linked to?

  I'd like to read more.

  Interesting how all Cultic groups have a very strong and exclusive "family vibe".

  Anyone who can't go along with the one way dogma is going to suffer as they lose "family"

  The interesting trick with the JW religion is that it's like "the world" within the the world - if that makes sense.
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  Setback

  by EdenOne in

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  i saw this coming since my mother-in-law's funeral .... the congregation's "love-bombing" over my wife had its impact.

  i watched her drawing closer and closer to her friends in the congregation.

  then she decided she would attend the memorial.

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  Alive!

  . As I said several times in this forum, beware of the emotional pull from the congregation. It's really powerful,

  "That is so true. I have felt it many times , I still feel it sometimes. I could have associates, "friends" to see several times a week... things to do, places to be, a life where people depended on me, respected me - just like it used to be. The trouble is that the genie is out of the bottle. I know now. I know that it is just not true, so how can I teach it?"

  So true - so true.

  
  
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  Setback

  by EdenOne in

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  2. experiences

  i saw this coming since my mother-in-law's funeral .... the congregation's "love-bombing" over my wife had its impact.

  i watched her drawing closer and closer to her friends in the congregation.

  then she decided she would attend the memorial.

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  Hi Eden One

  Am new here - just wanted to send heartfelt support and acknowledgement of your painful circumstances.

  You have wonderful support here from so many folk who have shared on the forum. May it strengthen you and soften the hurt.
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  How many here gave up having a family for the sake of the "truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
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  this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.

  start the count here with my wife and i.

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  Alive!

  Lois, a gentle hug from me to you X
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  How do stop myself getting too Bitter?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  you know, i always maintained that during this fading process, and while learning ttatt, i would not let myself get "bitter twisted and angry".... but, in all honesty, if i examine myself, i have become quite bitter toward the org, toward the false friends and the gb.. i have become angry as i see the extent of damage i feel being raised in "the truth" has done.... i feel hurt towards the lost opportunities in life etc.... how do i not allow myself to get too swallowed up by such bitterness?.

  i have always been a very happy, positive, selfless person.

  i can put people at ease, i am someone people feel comfortable chatting to.

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  Alive!

  I agree that justifiable anger is a very natural and healthy response to false religion and spiritual abuse.

  I'm not bitter...but am feeling tired and I definitely have hit a deeper level of grieving. It's been a wild journey "out" over 3 years or longer...

  Stuckinarut - you take care. Wise words in this thread from many - it helps so so much.
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  How do stop myself getting too Bitter?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  you know, i always maintained that during this fading process, and while learning ttatt, i would not let myself get "bitter twisted and angry".... but, in all honesty, if i examine myself, i have become quite bitter toward the org, toward the false friends and the gb.. i have become angry as i see the extent of damage i feel being raised in "the truth" has done.... i feel hurt towards the lost opportunities in life etc.... how do i not allow myself to get too swallowed up by such bitterness?.

  i have always been a very happy, positive, selfless person.

  i can put people at ease, i am someone people feel comfortable chatting to.

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  Voodoo Lady - Yes, I can definitely say I feel like someone I didn't think I could be....that in itself is a big hurt and obstacle.
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  Struggling

  by Alive! in

  1. jw
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  i read here regularly and although i haven't joined in, i really appreciate all the wonderful contributions from those who are willing to share their experiences.... .

  i was a convert.

  i won't go into the whole history ( perhaps another day) - my story could easily be recognised in the small town where i live, with my husband.. so, we stopped going to the meetings around a period of time when we were going through severe emotional difficulties - at that point, we needed unconditional family love - the hectic, forced jw dinner parties and social occasions gave no real comfort.

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  Pete Zahut7 minutes ago

  I never heard the "songbook in the mailbox" thing, but I heard plenty calling "dibs" after Armageddon on some of the nicer waterfront homes in our territory.

  
  

  Un-believable! I wonder what our householders would have thought - knowing that their homes were being eyed up for occupation after they'd been slaughtered.
  Over the past 48 hours I can sense that I'm letting "stuff" that was really upsetting me over the years take on real meaning. My cognitive dissonance was so extreme to manage all this. I wrote the previous post about the "dibs" thing - and on reading your reply I have a sense of "sounding this down".
  It was such crap. What "spirit" truly operates in this organisation.Imagine explaining the "joke" to a quiet, going about his business, Christian - hey, our friend over there fancies your house, he was just sizing it up.... I'll explain why!.... And then giving them one of our horrible hate tracts on false religion.
  Awful. I need a new brain. My old one must have been diseased.
  
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  How many here gave up having a family for the sake of the "truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.

  start the count here with my wife and i.

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  Alive!

  I didn't know that GrreatTeacher, re marriage.
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  How many here gave up having a family for the sake of the "truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.

  start the count here with my wife and i.

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  Alive!

  I think I'm okay with not having children - but I must confess, that during the latter years when we were struggling, it hurt to take in the full scope of what would be missing in our future.

  What makes me want to hurl something is that when I step back, and think of the sheer control exerted into our lives. I'm shaking my head.

  Another issue ( sorry, no derailing intended) was regarding the resurrection of marraige mates. The "teaching" has changed on that too I believe.

  The emotions, hopes and expectations of people are played with horribly...

  And switched in a five lined paragraph on a Sunday afternoon without a flicker of "could we possibly offer you some counselling to help in your adjustment to our new reality for you?"

  Read paragraph, repeat answer. Well done. Time to go home.

  The loving bastards.