To me - this says being in a suit is on the right path to being a Christian - let's start with babies.
Its kind of them - but I wonder if they realise how bizarre it is to put a baby in a pretend suit.... The male JW corporate uniform.
So cultish.
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An elder bought my son a suit
by Clambake ini guess being two months old and coming to the kh in his onesee was kind of offensive .
how rude of me.
i am thinking about returning to him.
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The org uses fear.
They love it.
Guess I learnt something - now to carry on with the journey....even this late time in my life.
I know about intense anxiety and panic attacks - never, ever before I was exposed to the WTBTS theology had I known this horror.
They are liars. That is the nature of the organisations culture. Another poster noted that they felt they became 'liars' for the truth - me too. I heard it and saw it. And maybe, I practiced it myself :-(
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Reasons for doubting.
by New day insomebody mentioned in a recent topic that they had a conversation with a former elder whose breaking point was when the overlapping generation was highlighted in recent times and how he would never serve again until somebody gave him a scriptural reason to believe it.
i am in a similar position.
i have gone in the last 18 months from taking the wt study, leading fs groups, and doing talks on the mtngs to doing almost nothing, as i resigned a little over a year ago as an elder due to a combination of family responsibilities and huge doubts.
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"So performance based"
How true.
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Remember that WT masturbation video? Who is the sign language person?
by FatFreek 2005 inbelow are a few screen captures from the video to serve as a reminder of what he looks like.
below those will be a few captures from a weather forecaster now at our kark tv (arkansas).
his name is matt peterson.
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No, the video should never have been published in the first place - it was disturbing in that it appeared on the globally viewed website, with just a handful of other ASL vids...and really, there are so many more topics or scriptural thoughts that could have been covered.
Why choose masturbation? A deaf person can read about that kind of counsel - we didn't need to see those kind of gestures.
I remember when I first saw it on the website - why choose such a subject?
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Why My Wife and I Have No Kids
by JT in*** g74 11/8 ***9 is this the time to have children?there has always been a positive attitude about childbearing.
*** g74 11/8 10 is this the time to have children?
what does imminent mean?
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We're nearly 60.
No kids.
The watchtower shaped our thinking.
It bites now - every single day.
No family memories..... Just memories built with other people's JW kids who will never be part of our lives now, because we don't belong to the same programme.
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Remember that WT masturbation video? Who is the sign language person?
by FatFreek 2005 inbelow are a few screen captures from the video to serve as a reminder of what he looks like.
below those will be a few captures from a weather forecaster now at our kark tv (arkansas).
his name is matt peterson.
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Thanks - you just reminded me of a NO moment when I realised that given the opportunity to encourage deaf people - with all their challenges, the best the loving org could come up with was a couple of guys mimicking masturbating.
Insulting beyond belief - and then I thought, are they taking the piss out of us??
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I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide
by SnakesInTheTower inmy middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.
our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.
he hung himself.
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Hard to find the right words, may I send gentle hugs to you.
So very sorry to read this Snakes.
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Personal thoughts and evaluations upon the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization
by Finkelstein infrom my own personal feelings about the jws when i was involved and i was brought up in the is religious practice from birth, was one of feeling of being lied to, exploited and manipulated to a certain extent.
reflectively though i could see some wholesome social behavior direction being propagated not surprising nevertheless since this faith is based from christianity at its core.. where and how the wts/jws got bit corrupted i believe is that this organization has always had a publishing house and its core operation and supporting finances were mostly from that endeavoring operation.
this also included creating doctrines which were to support and enhance the proliferation of those published works.
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I can't quite believe that a young intelligent 'me' accepted the terms of this 'vow'.
Along with the 607 to 1914 'prophetic' magic and so, so much more -I remember the big build up to the study where we'd work through the equation - I was told with a twinkle in their eyes that I'd be blown away.
I was absolutely convinced this was the truth.
Around that time, several other converts came through from respectable backgrounds, with degrees and well positioned lives in careers, life etc.
I was prepared to take the good with the bad, not expecting the people to be perfect - but, given the non- negotiable teaching programme, the fact that nothing was presented as an offer for us to 'consider' but as an absolute truth at that time, only to be proven wrong - well, I don't believe a true Godly Father would teach that way to his 'special people'.
There was no room to explore and think at our own pace - keep up with Jehovah's Chariot!
WTBTS abused and scorned the religious leaders of Christendom for misleading their flocks.
They should apologise for that, as they have misled their own. We were given no choice. Latest light? Gulp it down.
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Personal thoughts and evaluations upon the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization
by Finkelstein infrom my own personal feelings about the jws when i was involved and i was brought up in the is religious practice from birth, was one of feeling of being lied to, exploited and manipulated to a certain extent.
reflectively though i could see some wholesome social behavior direction being propagated not surprising nevertheless since this faith is based from christianity at its core.. where and how the wts/jws got bit corrupted i believe is that this organization has always had a publishing house and its core operation and supporting finances were mostly from that endeavoring operation.
this also included creating doctrines which were to support and enhance the proliferation of those published works.
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And as you said Finkel...surely, one of the most profoundly disturbing issues is the vow to the org.
It's absolutely not biblical and is one big red flag.
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Personal thoughts and evaluations upon the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization
by Finkelstein infrom my own personal feelings about the jws when i was involved and i was brought up in the is religious practice from birth, was one of feeling of being lied to, exploited and manipulated to a certain extent.
reflectively though i could see some wholesome social behavior direction being propagated not surprising nevertheless since this faith is based from christianity at its core.. where and how the wts/jws got bit corrupted i believe is that this organization has always had a publishing house and its core operation and supporting finances were mostly from that endeavoring operation.
this also included creating doctrines which were to support and enhance the proliferation of those published works.
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Finkelstein,
That was very well expressed - so true.
Below is exactly how I felt.
Preaching the Gospel in the descriptive version of JWS was perceived by myself as doing so with a sort of tainted commercialization, which eventually brought my own lets say spirituality (belief) down to such a low level I couldn't stand it anymore, so I left a bit bewildered and a bit confused.