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  How Many JWs Really Believe Everything They Are Told?

  by minimus in

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  i think that 80% of jws do not truly believe in what they are taught .

  the vast majority stay in because of family, friends, ignorance and a lack of caring about any of the facts regarding the "truth".

  many people are lazy.

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  Alive!

  No - they go along with it all - and wait on Jehovah.

  A close friend of mine would argue that the org is the closest thing to how Jehovah wants to be served - I can see her point as it was once mine.

  But then when I realised that to 'protect' the 'truth' I was being taught to lie, deceive, use tricky arguments and be less than transparent - well my heart just about died having to face THAT 'truth'.

  When I first converted, years ago - it kind of puzzled me, that people holding such a momentous truth spent so much time building businesses, homes, families etc ( ie Armageddon would start before the generation of 1914 passed away - meaning it would all be over by 2000 at the latest, surely?) I didn't want to 'judge' anyone - but the inconsistency of the apparent urgency of the message with the average behaviour of the JW was downright odd.
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  Changing meanings of words: "Brother" and "Sister".

  by Open mind in

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  ever notice how most jws use the titles "brother" and "sister"?

  in my experience, 99% of the time it was not a term of endearment.

  it was actually a term of formality very much like "mister", "mrs.", "miss" or "ms.".

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  When I first started attending meetings, I found the use of brother so and so and sister so and so very much on the 'icky' spectrum. I never really liked it as a form of address, and avoided using it.
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  An elder bought my son a suit

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
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  i guess being two months old and coming to the kh in his onesee was kind of offensive .

  how rude of me.

  i am thinking about returning to him.

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  Hope it hasn't got tight pants.
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  An elder bought my son a suit

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i guess being two months old and coming to the kh in his onesee was kind of offensive .

  how rude of me.

  i am thinking about returning to him.

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  Alive!

  Giggling over the idea of getting the Elder a onesie.

  Really though, probably they only meant kindness, just it was off the chart, and 'wrong'.

  At the same time - there was an underlying 'thing' - and it's about their sense of 'ownership' - your baby boy is one of 'theirs' in their eyes. They want to dress him like 'one of theirs' - and to them, it's life saving love they are showing.

  Don't forget that - :-)

  So hard to find a balance here......
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  An elder bought my son a suit

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i guess being two months old and coming to the kh in his onesee was kind of offensive .

  how rude of me.

  i am thinking about returning to him.

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  Alive!

  To me - this says being in a suit is on the right path to being a Christian - let's start with babies.

  Its kind of them - but I wonder if they realise how bizarre it is to put a baby in a pretend suit.... The male JW corporate uniform.

  So cultish.
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  Do some Jehovah witnesses engage in psychological terrorism

  by poopie in

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  yes or no explanation.

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  Alive!

  The org uses fear.

  They love it.

  Guess I learnt something - now to carry on with the journey....even this late time in my life.

  I know about intense anxiety and panic attacks - never, ever before I was exposed to the WTBTS theology had I known this horror.

  They are liars. That is the nature of the organisations culture. Another poster noted that they felt they became 'liars' for the truth - me too. I heard it and saw it. And maybe, I practiced it myself :-(
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  Reasons for doubting.

  by New day in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  somebody mentioned in a recent topic that they had a conversation with a former elder whose breaking point was when the overlapping generation was highlighted in recent times and how he would never serve again until somebody gave him a scriptural reason to believe it.

  i am in a similar position.

  i have gone in the last 18 months from taking the wt study, leading fs groups, and doing talks on the mtngs to doing almost nothing, as i resigned a little over a year ago as an elder due to a combination of family responsibilities and huge doubts.

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  Alive!

  "So performance based"

  How true.
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  Remember that WT masturbation video? Who is the sign language person?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  below are a few screen captures from the video to serve as a reminder of what he looks like.

  below those will be a few captures from a weather forecaster now at our kark tv (arkansas).

  his name is matt peterson.

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  No, the video should never have been published in the first place - it was disturbing in that it appeared on the globally viewed website, with just a handful of other ASL vids...and really, there are so many more topics or scriptural thoughts that could have been covered.

  Why choose masturbation? A deaf person can read about that kind of counsel - we didn't need to see those kind of gestures.

  I remember when I first saw it on the website - why choose such a subject?
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  Why My Wife and I Have No Kids

  by JT in

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  *** g74 11/8 ***9 is this the time to have children?there has always been a positive attitude about childbearing.

  *** g74 11/8 10 is this the time to have children?

  what does imminent mean?

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  Alive!

  We're nearly 60.

  No kids.

  The watchtower shaped our thinking.

  It bites now - every single day.

  No family memories..... Just memories built with other people's JW kids who will never be part of our lives now, because we don't belong to the same programme.
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  Remember that WT masturbation video? Who is the sign language person?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  below are a few screen captures from the video to serve as a reminder of what he looks like.

  below those will be a few captures from a weather forecaster now at our kark tv (arkansas).

  his name is matt peterson.

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  Alive!

  Thanks - you just reminded me of a NO moment when I realised that given the opportunity to encourage deaf people - with all their challenges, the best the loving org could come up with was a couple of guys mimicking masturbating.

  Insulting beyond belief - and then I thought, are they taking the piss out of us??