Posts by Alive!

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Would I lie to you?

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

given recent posts on the forum and discussion, maybe we could play this game: would i lie to you?

in the uk we have this tv programme where minor celebrities tell weird or embarrassing stories about themselves and the rest of the participants have to guess if it is a true story or made up.

when the others have voted then the person reveals if the story is true or false.

Alive!

One of my favourite progs!

Love Rob, Lee and David.

Did anyone ever see Rob do his Cliff Richard impersonation on the show - it was wicked.

The fabulous tales to date on this thread are hilarious - what to choose???

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Had the C.O visit this week...went out on service and Wow

by MrsR-Awaken in

this is my first post here (not being comments) but i still have to tell my story but for that i need to get my mind together in other to give as much detail as possible to be able to share it.

will do in a future post.. anyway i had to share this.. so i went out on service this morning (i never do i always end up excusing myself because i hate field service) reason i did was to see what the new c.o had to say and he sure did say something.

he was saying what we had to present and he went over the watchtower magazine.

Alive!

Yuck.

I always felt uncomfortable with the 'pitch' - especially when it was something like an 'Awake' article...like 'should I eat more vegetables?' And the format would be to read an 'interesting fact' quoted by a leading dietitian and then assure the householder that they'd find the article very educating and hand it over with a Watchtower tucked inside, which had an appealing article on anti-typical Jerusalem and 'the end' of Christendom or whatever.

And we'd congratulate the slave class on their 'hard hitting' message this month.

Shame. Such shame I feel now when I look back - I knew it had a bad 'yuck' factor but I squelched that feeling .....why????!

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Half of the cong was dancing last night

by StarTrekAngel in

so went to the meeting last night.

i had not been to one since before the holiday break (3 weeks ago).

besides, it was our first meeting in the new format.

Alive!

Well we have Mexican waves at international conventions now - right?

Not that I want to be a sour, nit picking killjoy - but not so long ago such spontaneous outbursts would have been critically aligned with bad spirituality led by emotions - according to the Watchtowef and followers.

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Half of the cong was dancing last night

by StarTrekAngel in

so went to the meeting last night.

i had not been to one since before the holiday break (3 weeks ago).

besides, it was our first meeting in the new format.

Alive!

I agree with Pete ( not my taste in music, but can see how it will catch on)

As Pete said, why not a bit of fun and music joy in the meetings - I can imagine many dear friends who will LOVE this....

But for me, I attended for over two decades and music, dancing, swaying and behaviour such as this in 'holy meetings' was NOT approved, was mere 'emotionalism' used by churches to keep their flocks - and here we are. We never, ever even swayed, we would have been marked as 'weird'.

It's like watching the roll out of a corporate marketing plan, logos, branding, music - in double quick time.

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"Apostates " how honest are we?

by closed in

as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

i was involved in a number of jc.

some i dealt with are good friends now.

Alive!

So many great comments @closed.

Slimboyfat, finkel and bluesbro - excellent points.

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How this Jehovah’s Witness feels about the Australian Royal Commission

by Simple Minds in

i know the arc is old news i know i am preaching to the converted but i had to express how i feel because most of my jw friends and family dont want to hear .

so this is how i feel.

i have faithfully served as a jehovahs witness for over 25 years..

Alive!

Simple minds,

I well remember facing trusted JW friends with hard questions, putting it to them that this could be an exercise in thinking through how we'd answer such questions from non witnesses, who sincerely expected fair and honest answers from those who claim to have 'the only true religion' and who are the only ones who speak on God's behalf.

They turned their backs. They didn't want to think or 'help' me by searching for a healing and honest answer.

I know how it feels to work through the shame of who I once thought we were, to what time has revealed us to be.

I didn't hear the 'voice of Jesus' in the ARC witness stand, giving the right words to 'the brothers' - I heard something quite different.

It's OK - take one hour, one day at a time.

Dont panic - which is what I did I guess - I went a bit beserk, said too much, lost ground accordingly.

Take your time, protect yourself. ((((Hugs))))

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Slightly different approach - JW my tradition

by closed in

hello everybody :) i have been visiting this forum for some time.

i noticed that many can't really free from the past in the org despite many years outside of jw.

i was awaken with a bang.

Alive!

Totally understand that having family raises all sorts of concerns - especially when you see them doing fine, the thought of dropping any bombs would not be something that feels 'right'.

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Slightly different approach - JW my tradition

by closed in

hello everybody :) i have been visiting this forum for some time.

i noticed that many can't really free from the past in the org despite many years outside of jw.

i was awaken with a bang.

Alive!

'You suffer a lot and you hate a lot'

When I converted to be a witness of Jehovah I believed that I started training for a time when I'd have to stand up and be counted.

I believed by taking a stand, in the workplace, amongst my non witness family and friends - that I'd be strengthening my character.

Good luck to you and your family with your somewhat duplicit acceptance of half truths for the sake of comfort.

That's not spoken in hate - but think about it and what it could ultimately do to the shaping of your character and that of those you love.

You belong to a church that has no freedom of speech, open communication in the spirit of truth is not tolerated.

Its not good. Is it?

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JT & Lady Cee Why we left the Jehovah's Witnesses - Part 2

by JT-LadyC in

jt further expounds on why we left the watchtower.

why we left the jehovah's witnesses part 2.

Alive!

Excellent video - I particularly liked the reminder of how we were taught that we were in a separating work, seperating the sheep from the goats - and that teaching changed overnight.

For those who say the 'core' JW doctrines are sound......well I think believing that mere humans are doing a separating work of fellow humans using publications full of errors 'in the time of the end' is profoundly satanic....if you believe that 'satan' is the father of the lie.

I was relieved when that 'doctrine' changed - but looking back, it was a wicked teaching. It was a soul destroying lie, causing intense anxiety to many....including me.

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Demonic art in the watchtower?

by Lost and adrift in

does anybody remember a rumour or maybe it was a truth?

?...something about hidden pictures or symbols in the artwork of the watchtower.

was it one of those urban legends?

Alive!

I always felt the illustrations were.....a bit yuck. But rapped myself on the wrist for not seeing them through 'humble eyes'

Havong said that - it seemed to me, there was never any 'error' in how illustrations appeared. The revelation 'lobster claw' was 'out there' - no artist would let that bit of crappy 'handy work' go to print - it was a terrible representation of a hand, in fact, nothing like a hand.... Yes, it DID look like a proper 'claw' hand - it really did 'stand out' as being apart from the rest of the hand representations in that picture and I can't help wondering if the art crowd just loved having a joke, chucking something like that in....

And I don't want to be over critical about the whole art thing - but I do agree that every picture was CAREFULLY chosen.

After all .... The FDS tells us so.

So, regarding the black guy on the song book, with the dodgy thumb - replaced by an Asian guy.....may I ask a question regarding that picture of just a few persons, carefully placed and dressed....am I right in thinking the little girl's skirt and top do not meet, exposing her bare tummy? The skirt waist band gathers somewhere low on her hips.....

Forgive me if I am wrong.....and my eyes deceive me - but if I am right.... Why dress her like this? Most JW children are very neatly groomed and dressed.

Am I wrong?