Posts by Blackfalcon98

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Find What Your Social Status Was in the Congregation

by Mary in

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ever notice how the "happiest people on earth" are also the most class-oriented?

the social structure in the congregation is more complex than the blueprints of a nuclear warhead, but just so that you "remember your place", see if you can find where your niche was/is:.

1. at the top of the social order of things within the congregation is of course, the presiding overseer and his family.

Blackfalcon98

Imma 8, the lowest of the low! Good post!

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Whatever Happened to The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures?

by Chalam in

whatever happened to the kingdom interlinear translation of the greek scriptures?part 1. print/download: pdfdoc.

the watchtower says on page 5 of the 1985 edition of the kit:.

there is no definite article in the greek before the word god in john 1:6, yet the wt translates it god, with a capital g!.

Sign-in fix for IE users

by Simon in

i think i finally tracked down the bug that was affecting ie users - you should now be able to sign in and use the site.

i've only had chance to test with ie 11 but it should work with ie 10 as well, i'm not sure about ie 9 and ie 8 or older is doubtful.. fingers crossed we get some replies from ie'ers.

note: there may still be other issues but the first and biggest hurdle is getting signed on..

Blackfalcon98

Simon, What about for Opera mobile users. This site is inaccessible, there is no chance of attempting to sign in using Opera mini. Could you take a look?

THanks, BF98

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Personal Revelations and Ah-ha moments while reading Combating Cult Mind Control

by Blackfalcon98 in

hi everyone, i'm nearing the end of steven hassan's first book: combating cult mind control.

as i was on the chapter which describes 'mini interventions', i had an ah-ha moment regarding wtbs and the stance on two matters which awoken doubts in me earlier:.

college enrollment (on campus housing vs. off campus housing, etc.).

Hi everyone, I'm nearing the end of Steven Hassan's first book: Combating Cult Mind Control. As I was on the chapter which describes 'Mini Interventions', I had an Ah-HA moment regarding WTBS and the stance on two matters which awoken doubts in me earlier:

College Enrollment (On campus housing vs. Off campus housing, etc.)
Public Cart Witnessing (only for elite, hand-picked, pioneers)

So, as I've read on the forums, and know from personal experience, a brother can be looked over for appointment or deleted as an Elder or a MS if he attends, or if his children attends college. As some of the elders on this board have pointed out, his 'Qualifications' would at least be reviewed by the BOE, and perhaps even the CO, with special interest being placed on where the student lives while attending and how active the 'publisher' is while attending. The entire purpose: restrict and discourage dubs from getting away from the group long enough to revert to thinking in reality. Prevent them from ever learning the real meaning of: research, study, or critical thinking, and exercise damage control to monitor the student for signs of waking up, loosing zeal, and leaving this cult. If the student is, or is linked to an appointed man....REMOVE THE APPOINTED MAN to show that getting a real education is not acceptable dub. behavior, and will not be tolerated!

Also, I've always wondered why the public cart witnessing was always limited to the 'elite' pioneers and those specially selected by a committee which could at times include the CO. As I was reading Hassan's work, it became obvious that many of the 'mini interventions' he has with members from other groups would not work as effectively with the elite pioneers at the carts. These elites are very active in recruitment, sometimes power-hungry, die-hards who have so much work tied into proclaiming the message of this cult that they will quickly shutdown anyone who makes them feel uncomfortable. I have come to the conclusion, at least at the moment, that the organization, and cults in general exhibit mind control out of necessity as much as for the feeling of power. If they loosen-up and allow people to think for, and control themselves they would loose membership as people see through their bologna.

These are just some of my ah-ha moments. Have anyone else had these since learning TTATT? Please share!

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Please post new forum feedback or questions here

by Simon in

well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.

Blackfalcon98

Thanks for the update Simon!

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Public Speaker Training stifled by wt, it's new 'school' programme.

by prologos in

the 2015 school setup, discussed this week eliminates the last "school talk" by brothers in favour of 'demonstartions" (a la sisters conversations) of family worship sessions and the like.. is this not a shift away from encouraging bright young ones to hone their (under-estimated) speaker skills ---to.

now using more of the die-hard, org-bound, --even elders in indoctrination demonstrations?.

do you see this trend?

Blackfalcon98

Get away from reading scripture. Get closer to reading 'spiritual junk food'

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To all my congregation Elders :

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

thank you for coming to my house so often because you were so concerned about me missing so many meetings.. ( actually, the only time you visited was when the circuit and district overseers were in town.

you really showed them how concerned you were about your sheep.

i now know that it is more of a duty than a concern.).

Blackfalcon98

I totally understand how you feel. Im not even a fader, im getting this same treatment. Im just a brother who the hounders ostracized for not towing the company line. One moment you are the rising star..the next minute you learn TTATT...stop obeying man-made laws, and you are shunned by 40% of the congregation.

Matthew 7:16 "You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?"

John 13:35 "By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

HMMMMMMM

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Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?

by CrytoJesus in

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christians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.

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i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .

Blackfalcon98

@crytojesus....yes. Due to my personal circumstances....I still attend the meetings....an I am somewhat active.

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Do the witnesses baptize in Jesus name?

by runForever in

http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/are-jehovahs-witnesses-christians/.

the third bullet point there claims they baptize in jesus name.

i know the baptism questions never mention jesus once.. .

Blackfalcon98

Yes. Those are the last two questions read off right before the actual immersion. But we all know: God's spirit is not with that organazation.

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Do the witnesses baptize in Jesus name?

by runForever in

http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/are-jehovahs-witnesses-christians/.

the third bullet point there claims they baptize in jesus name.

i know the baptism questions never mention jesus once.. .

Blackfalcon98

They baptize in the name of The Father, The Son, and "God's SPIRIT DIRECTED ORGANAZATION".

So no, they don't follow Matthew 28:19,20.