The Congregation has to purchase the carts? Imagine that...the Congregation has to pay, which means the rank and file pays. Does WT Headquarters pay for anything?
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49What are the costs of literature cart witnessing?
by oppostate inin the article on the guardian ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon ) mentioned in another thread, there's this quote of mark omalley, who is assigned to the public information desk at the jehovahs witness uk centre in north london.
we now have more than 165,000 [literature] carts on the streets in over 50 countries.
it gives us visibility and availability.
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My introduction and confession
by elderINewton inwell another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.
i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.
i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.
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ToesUp
It is fantastic that you and your wife are escaping together. We did the same thing. It's wonderful to be on the "same page." Freedom is wonderful!!!
Regarding this letter:
" The letter which was orally read to all servants and elders was that if the child was still living at home, attending meeting meetings and regularly contributing in the ministry that the elder or servant would be "ok.". They provided a loophole effectively but only for higher ups."
We saw so many of the Elders kids going to college. Don't get me wrong, we 100% agree that the kids should get an education but the double standards are incredible. If a Brother doesn't get the magic 10 hours a month in service, he can't have any "priveledges" (except donating $, cleaning the toilets or taking the CO or speaker to dinner) but if your college bound kid does all the tasks (The tasks that get him/her labeled a "spiritual" young one) than that's ok, they get a free pass.
Trust me when I tell you this (right from one of my kids mouths). These kids know exactly what is going on. They can see right through the hypocrisy and want NO part of it. This is why the 20ish kids are exiting. This generation of kids know that the kids that "look spiritual" know how to play the spiritual game. Elder Daddy has taught them that this is what is required of you if you want to go to college. We had one of the teenage kids in our Hall confess to us that his Father warned/threatened him, "don't make me look bad or loose my priveledges in the Congregation."
There was an article (Watchtower) several years back that if you sent your kids to college you lacked faith. This was one of those head scratching moments for us. We asked...if your kids are in college and your an Elder doesn't that mean that Elder lacks faith? How can they remain an Elder if he lacks faith? Maybe Blondie knows the article I am referring to (it was a study article).
The Hypocrisy is just mind boggling.
Keep us posted on your progress. It's so good to hear so many are stepping up to the plate and moving on.
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What are the costs of literature cart witnessing?
by oppostate inin the article on the guardian ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon ) mentioned in another thread, there's this quote of mark omalley, who is assigned to the public information desk at the jehovahs witness uk centre in north london.
we now have more than 165,000 [literature] carts on the streets in over 50 countries.
it gives us visibility and availability.
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ToesUp
Found this photo of a JWLego cart...you guys will have to provide the captions. I am speechless...
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London Ontario Old Boy Network alive and thriving.
by notoneoftheboys ini served for years as an elder in london ontario.
finally stepped aside because of the old boy network, elders covering up for one another, practice of elders and their wives party times with excessive use of alcohol.
the elders families getting slaps on the wrist for major sins.
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tiki
Your Dad was a smart man!
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London Ontario Old Boy Network alive and thriving.
by notoneoftheboys ini served for years as an elder in london ontario.
finally stepped aside because of the old boy network, elders covering up for one another, practice of elders and their wives party times with excessive use of alcohol.
the elders families getting slaps on the wrist for major sins.
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ToesUp
We thought JW's were supposed to be different too...they are not. A tough lesson to learn. I agree with Doc...get on with your life and let those sharks in the Kingdom Hall devour each other. They deserve each other.
Glad our family escaped!
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My sister is being harassed by the elders
by opusdei1972 insometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.
this happened more than one year ago.
i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.
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Happiness is achievable
by asensier inupdate - for those of you who read my last topic 'disfellowshipped at 18' i am so thankful for all the support and helpful comments i received.
it's amazing to know that despite how alone i may feel, so many of you have suffered the same way that i have.
i know that i can live happily without being one of jehovah's witnesses.
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ToesUp
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How Many JWs actually Watch JW.TV?
by Oubliette ini'm curious.
what do you know from your own experience and talking to other active jws?
i know from my own informal, non-scientific survey that most jws do not watch jw.tv.
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ToesUp
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So one of the elders kids told my son she is not going to college, but will pioneer. my son told her he is going to college.
by goingthruthemotions inhe said she gave him a strange look.
i then explained to my son that her father has no degree and barely provides for his family.
he works like a fool, .
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My introduction and confession
by elderINewton inwell another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.
i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.
i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.
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elderNewton
We can only hope and pray that you are one of the VERY few good guys we know. There are some (very few) of you left but you do exist. Hopefully, you and your family can escape.
Sometimes my family and I can only hope that some of the Elders, CO's and Bethelites will TRULY see what is going on.
Occasionally, a few Elders will post but then they disappear. Some remain and we cherish their loving/kind input.
So much damage/abuse has been done to some really good and decent people. We can attest to this!
We don't know how you do it. Going trough the motions of being an Elder, meetings, field service, conventions, etc. has to be brutal.
If you can get yourself and your family out...DO IT. We have been out for about 3 years and the freedom is incredible. They talk and act as if your life will go to sh** if you leave. DON'T BELIEVE THEM...IT DOES'NT! Freedom is an incredible feeling. Happiest years of our lives!
Know that you are not alone . There are some incredibly kind and loving people here for you.
