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  Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

  however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

  he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

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  If I was still in, this statement would send me running for the door! Although, Tony Morris' zone talk would have also.

  Theocratic warfare ='s lying. This organization deserves anything they get!
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  What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

  i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

  revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

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  I actually think these sick puppies enjoy the thought of your demise. I really do! They thrive on gossip and other peoples despair (even if it is untrue).
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  The Kingdom Halls are empty

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my jw spies tell me that the kingdom halls are empty compared to how they used to be, since i left 5 years ago.

  not saying they're empty because of me though.. is that what you are hearing?.

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  One can only hope the seats are empty! We wonder the same thing (haven't attended in 2+ yrs.).

  I wonder if the RC in Australia will have any impact on some leaving.
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  Transcript for Jackson is now available for download.

  by ToesUp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  select aug 14..

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  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney

  Select Aug 14.
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  Today's WT glancing at the opposite sex is flirting and therefore immortality

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in today's wt study it makes the point that just glancing at the opposite sex is flirting and can lead to sex!.

  so are jw's now to wear blinkers?.

  also jw's are told to go and confess to the elders if they have any immoral thoughts?!!.

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  Every time I hear things like this it reminds me of the movie Footloose. The Preacher Father thought the music was going to cause the kids to have sexual desires. Good grief!
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  I Rolled My Eyes When...

  by Iown Mylife in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  today as i had the old timey music playing and the song love potion no.

  9 came on, i remembered being reproved by a brother at a get together when i sang along to that same song.

  oh that song is spiritistic, blah blah.

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  When I was a kid (many moons ago), the scrutiny got so bad in org, I actually lost my desire to attend any JW functions. Sometimes I would just briefly show up and leave. All we seemed to hear was..."the music is wrong/too loud, picking on kids clothes, hairstyles. Kids are going off together." The list goes on and on!

  The scrutiny continued into adulthood: "Don't get married, don't have kids, no vacations, don't buy a home, no college, your clothes are inappropriate." Again...the list goes on and on. Who the hell wants to live like that? Man made rules.

  It seems the org took all of the joy out of life. I don't want to take the joy out of my kids lives. This should be the BEST part of their lives. So glad we are OUT!
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  New Inactive One Saying Hello to all

  by Lostwun in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lostwun here, i joined 2 months ago but am now just finding the courage after doing more research to formally introduce myself to the board and embrace my new beginnings as an ex-jw.

  i am a second-generation jw.

  i grew up with parents who are well known and very respected in many circuits.

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  Lostwun

  Welcome! So glad to hear so many are learning TTATT. We left 2+ years ago.

  Move slow with your husband, don't rush it. It's A LOT to absorb. We too were born in's (my dad an Elder).I know what you mean by the spot light on you growing up. It stinks.

  Take it slow. Don't tell ANYONE in the congregation why you are not attending. Use the not feeling well, depressed, busy excuse. It's none of anyone's business. I know that is hard living in a small/close knit town.

  Keep slowly trying to plant those little seeds of doubt with your husband. You never know.

  Hang in there and keep us posted on your progress.
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  OFS Did It Again

  by OneFingerSalute in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so once again i was able to make a comment to tweak those who were at this mornings wt parrot session using their own printed words.

  the question on par.

  10 was, "why is flirting dangerous?".

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  Wow! Great comment. Did you receive any feed back from the conductor?
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  Using Governing Body Member Jackson Testimony To The Royal Commission, For A Defense Before A Judicial Committee Meeting

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i think that a person that is called before a judicial committee can use a recording of the trial and force the elder to view it because of jackson's statement to the commission and get off.

  i think mr jackson has said enough about people who wish to leave the witnesses as not being harassed, hunted down, or spied upon and such to get the elder off your back and give them a "good witness".. also to be highlighted is the fact that jackson has stated under oath that the governing body is willing to reexamine doctrine and policy in order to conform to the law,.

  i think many statements by gb jackson to the commission can be used by some one clever and thus escape the label of apostate and be unhindered to a large extent of speaking to others.. .

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  "Jackson's words make the "Loyalty" question much harder for Elders to pose now."

  If they ask "Do you believe the G.B are god's spokesman" or similar, you can reply "As Bro Jackson of the G.B said, it would be presumptuous to do so".

  So true Phizzy. Their words will come back to bite them!
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  What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

  i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

  revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

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  We haven't heard any gossip about us because we quite frankly want these crazy JW's OUT of our lives. We have given them NOTHING to gossip about, we just walked away with no explanation. It's driving the nosy little buggers crazy!