Posts by ToesUp

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My book......

by punkofnice in

...is now on kindle with the paperback to follow soon.. thanks to you all for your contributions.

any questions, please pm me.. .

ToesUp

Punk- yes this link works in the U.S. Looking forward to your book!

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New Kingdom Halls

by panhandlegirl in

what's with all this new kingdom hall building?

just watched jw broadcasting about their master plan for building new kingdom halls.

sounds like a big deal.

ToesUp

The new Kingdom Hall thing is just an excuse to ask for more money. It was also an excuse for the money grab. There is not enough growth to justify new Kingdom Halls.

All you Lurkers who can't leave due to family. Vote with your wallets! Hit em where it hurts!

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in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.

so what woke me up?

an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.

ToesUp

Lack of love and hypocrisy!

I also learned about Rutherford (Boozerford) living in a mansion (Beth Sarim) while others were struggling financially.

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What went through your mind when you saw this Picture?

by John Aquila in

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ToesUp

Knowing us...."I wonder where we are going to eat after this boring meeting is over." lol

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Active JW Elders Speak Out

by Tenacious in

hey guys.. not sure if these have made the rounds (tried search feature).. eric posted these on his youtube channel jw struggle.. enjoy!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdxnbdjt8re.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi-tynahp-4.

ToesUp

I love these interviews that Eric does. Eric has really helped us out with our fade. I love his perspective on things. If you are on here Eric, thank you for all that you do. I want to thank the majority on here for helping us out too. It has taught us how to "play the game" of fading. We are doing things OUR WAY, giving the Elders and other busy bodies NOTHING. They have taken enough of our time and energy!

My husband and I were probably considered "losers" in the Congregation. Never "reached out" for the almighty "priviledges." You know... pioneering, need greaters, MS or Eldership. There was always something holding us back. Something just did not seem right. We never were fully engaged. Now we know why.

When we read and listen to these ones who put there all into this cult (some for many, many years), it really encourages us that we really weren't losers. Just people who saw so much wrong. It saddens me that so many thought they were doing the right thing. Serving Jehovah is all some wanted to do. They had such good intentions. Good/solid people.

For all of you that come forward and have been hurt deeply...we would like to thank you for coming forward and helping all on here and on other sites as well. We are grateful for you all!

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The elders of the 1980s are now in their 60s and 70s

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

having just come back from the uk and spoke with some witnesses to find out how my old congregation is doing, i realized i am now the age that my elders were when i was a kid.

and i wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them.

many of the elders in my old hall are now retired.

ToesUp

d4g

" my friend had asked him one day if he still believed. His answer was actually quite honest. His father said that "Since I had believed this long, and lived this life this long, what else can I do?". Deep down he recognized it was probably all for naught, however at 70+ years old, could not face that reality. Very sad, and very typical of those in this age group."

We have family that we believe has this same mind set. They are so ingrained in this cult they don't know where else to go. They do not have "worldly jobs, worldly friends, etc." If they left today they would have NOTHING. They also have no savings. They thought the end would be here so blew through all their money.

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The elders of the 1980s are now in their 60s and 70s

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

having just come back from the uk and spoke with some witnesses to find out how my old congregation is doing, i realized i am now the age that my elders were when i was a kid.

and i wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them.

many of the elders in my old hall are now retired.

ToesUp

"Friends, I know we are getting old, but don't despair, very soon we are going to be laughing and the rest of the world is going to be crying in despair when Armageddon finally arrives and everyone will know we had the truth."

I always found these type of statements disturbing. Sometimes I think of 9/11 when all those innocent people lost their lives. Their families lost their loved ones. Then I think of statements like the one made above. Can you imagine someone watching those buildings collapse having those same thoughts as stated above? Very sick indeed!

It seems these very sick individuals enjoy watching others suffer and die. Enjoying other peoples trials and unfortunate circumstances is disturbing.

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Go on welfare!

by life is to short in

i am going to make this short.

i ran into a older jw women who i have known my whole life.

she is pushing 80 and will never change.

ToesUp

We don't give money out. We just tell the moochers, "we don't have the money to give you." We just don't trust anyone anymore.

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Active JW Elders Speak Out

by Tenacious in

hey guys.. not sure if these have made the rounds (tried search feature).. eric posted these on his youtube channel jw struggle.. enjoy!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdxnbdjt8re.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi-tynahp-4.

ToesUp

These interviews are worth listening to. It really shows how many are waking up. It is so good to see these Elders, MS's and Pioneers sharing their experiences and thoughts.

The GB should be VERY concerned for their future!

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Introducing Myself

by Peony in

i've finally got round to joining the site (after over 2 years lurking!

i was born into jws, pioneered for 10 years (met my husband at pioneer school).

had health issues that saw me catapulted away from 'the centre of the cong' and wow what a different place that was!

ToesUp

Welcome to your freedom! It's funny how your health gets better once you leave the org. Life is good!