this weeks meeting under the section - living as 'christians', starts off with 'repentance makes a difference', which is a talk given by an elder taken from w06 11/15 27-28 par 7-9. in a nut shell it discusses those who have been disfellowshipped and then show repentance.
it then goes on to discuss reinstatement and how a certain amount of time must pass by before this can take place.
it makes the following point in the paragraph.. 'a disfellowshipped person is not automatically accepted back into the congregation after a certain amount of time has passed.
"If you commit a grevious error you are subject to public punishment from the body of elders.
If Watchtower leadership commits a grievious error, they are not punished nor do they face any consequences."
Correct...you get DF'd if YOU make a mistake but when it's THEM...."it's an organization made up of imperfect men." How many times do we hear that one. It's a cop out!
I don't buy it! Double standards are a common theme with the JW's. Too many contradictions to even keep up with.
i belonged to this forum for about 5 years ; 14 years ago and made many good online friends here.. it became my new family for awhile and i am very grateful for all the help i received.. for the first time in 10 years i went into a kh for a funeral, bearing in mind it was at the hall where my husband had been the presiding overseer and regular pioneer for many many years.. they were very surprised that i remembered all their names and was confident and happy.. someone said so are you back in the truth, i said simply !
yes i have my truth, thanks.. the elder in question said " well time will tell ?
"and i said yes it has hasn't it, but we aren't in competition..
"They hate it when you are happy and confident.
the only thing they want to hear is that you're miserable/suffering somehow."
You are 100% correct with this statement.
ever noticed how co's and ex-do's never say thank you for the hard earned money they get from the friends?
they truly believe they are entitled to live an easy life at the expense of others.
this makes my blood boil!
i read on a jw forum that jw's came in for disapproval if they drove either sports cars or 2-door cars.
the reasoning was that a driver couldn't easily take fellow dubbies out preaching in such a vehicle.
was that ever official policy or just local nonsense from a grumpy po?.
The only reason they "advise" you to buy a 4 door is because they are jealous and would love to have one themselves. So they label you materialistic. Remember, anything fun and enjoyable is frowned upon. Just another rule in the JW world.
Buy the 2 door! Have fun and enjoy it, if you can afford it.
i have had time to think about this........... i was an attendent for many years.......... and looking up and down the rows at every family that was seating there in the khs........... no one was happy!.
i think of my mother (who brought this religion into our house)......she was one of the most unhappy and miserable people you would ever meet!
she was a spiritual orphan with few friends and no real family to speak of.. she got the "good news" back in 1950, that "the world" was a bad place and god, would soon be killing most everyone......she was thrilled!...............
Can you blame them all? They have been promised countless times that they would be in Paradise. No paradise is here. I believe some of them really don't believe it anymore. They have taken everyone's hope away. It's like telling your kid you are taking them to Disney for many years and you never do. After a while they do not believe you.
We see so many people who are depressed and some who can't even get out of bed. So much for the happiest people on earth.
today marks the 1 year anniversary of the release of my second book, "escape from paradise".
i wanted to take the time to thank everyone here who was supportive of this book and for all the great feedback i received on it.
you guys rock.. of course, not all the feedback was pleasant.
Looks like you were dealing with a real "rocket scientist." Lol
while attending a week long training class for elders in patterson, bro losch gave the concluding talk about loyalty to the borg, which i was in awe of(i went more in detail in a recent post about a s.a.d.
where losch was the speaker).
at the end of his talk, here's what he said: .
today marks the 1 year anniversary of the release of my second book, "escape from paradise".
i wanted to take the time to thank everyone here who was supportive of this book and for all the great feedback i received on it.
you guys rock.. of course, not all the feedback was pleasant.
Brock, my spouse and I, really enjoyed reading your book. My hope for 2016. Bethelites
being sent home with no status or money, will write their stories about their life in God's
House.
for a future project i'm searching for remarkable quotes of current and former gb members.. i've two personal, validated quotes:.
"sprechen sie deutsch?
" "ah, ein bisschen!
During a talk I found online. Anthony Morris III was giving a talk regarding higher education. He spoke about a spiritual education because it is "superior" and leads to everlasting life. Well, he goes on with the doom and gloom talk about how the parents put the kid in college and all of a sudden (drum roll) the kid stops attending meetings. The parents come to the Brothers and say, "why didn't you do more for my son/daughter?" He replies in the talk...."who dropped em off there?"
This one really got to me. What a smug, arrogant, self righteous ass!
Whatever happened to seasoning your words with salt Brother Morris? You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
And they wonder why donations are down and people are flying the coup!
Then he gave a talk this summer about not judging our Brothers. What the hell! You just can't make this stuff up!
in about 1980 i came to know of and meet one time with lawrence onoda, ph.d., a jehovah's witness psychologist [also i think elder] in southern california.
i was shocked to know there was such a thing in view of the wts traditional stance against jws consulting such a person!
he had been one of jws for six years at that time, i recall.
'They were basically finished, and stood up to go to the door. I said something like, “Don’t you want to know my reasons for this?” It was obvious they really were not interested in the reason. [I was stunned and felt ill inwardly as I realized this was the case."
They didn't want to know the reason why. They just wanted the simple answer, Yes or No, so they could run back to the BOE and prepare the noose to hang you. That's what it is all about. That is why we will NEVER meet with these heartless henchmen. We owe them NOTHING, just what they gave us, NOTHING!
