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  So Proud of Pops

  by brandnew in

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  2. friends

  ok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.

  they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!

  this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".

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  I'm lovin your Dad...sounds like a brilliant man!!
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  What Is The Watchtower's Biggest Problem?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  the organization has many problems.

  certain doctrines are problematic.

  the men who run the organizaion have issues.

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  I believe the bethel layoff's will become an issue in the next year or 2. These folks are being sent packing with no special pioneer title or any pay. They will have to fend for themselves. Oh, the local congregation may help out for a few weeks or months. However, after they have been back home... reality of getting a paying job will set in. How about paying for rent, food and health insurance. I believe many of these laid off will become very bitter over time. I hope we see them on this forum telling their story.

  What amazed me when I started lurking on this site years ago...was how many ex-bethelites are here. I guess once you have seen it from the inside you get to really understand it is only a man made org and the holy spirit does not exist!

  I would say these folks could cause some problems for the org.especially if they have insider information and begin to share it!
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  Toasting is Pagan - How many contradictions can fit in 2 pages, I found 5?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower 2007 feb 15 pp.30-31 explains why jehovah's witnesses are not to toast.

  what is astounding is that for each point they then go on an explain why the point is irrelevant, yet still conclude toasting is wrong.

  what did people think when reading this?

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  Rules, rules, rules and more rules!

  I am so glad we are OUT!
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  So Long Palmyra NY Hall

  by mrquik in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ah just more evidence of the work "speeding up during the time of the end".

  i helped build this hall.

  was appointed as an ms & elder there.

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  Our old KH was sold to a church. But Brothers and Sisters can't do any work (i.e. plumbing, electrical, etc.) on a church, not even entering the doors. So we can sell our KH's to a church? WTF! Hypocrisy at it's best!!!
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  A Video You Won't Want To Miss!

  by clarity in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a great new video to circulate.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swzwg5swbcm .

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  Funny!

  One of my relatives would say: "They receive those as gifts from affluent brothers or ones Brothers/sisters who have businesses."

  My response: Why don't they pawn them and drop the proceeds in the donation box. I mean after all, Sophia has to give up her ice cream money.

  
  
  
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  This Website Was Mentioned By The Governing Body

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  okay, so at the "imitate their faith" ca there was a special speaker from the gb.

  and he started discussing psalms 1:1 and how we today could "sit in the seat of scoffers".

  he then mentioned that many bros. and sisters criticize the org and think they are so smart by researching online.

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  "A local elder once gave the actual website here to the congregation from the platform, saying how easy it is to take a wrong turn."

  Hmmm...I wonder how he knew that? Bet he knows some porn sites that could make you take a wrong turn.
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  Question about visiting bethel ... akward moment at the end

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since there a couple of ex-bethelites here, and a lot of people from the greater ny area who have probably visited the bethel in brooklyn and patterson many times, maybe they can shed some light into this curious question we (my wife and me) have for awhile.. so a couple of years ago, we happaned to be in the states and also went to visit the bethels in brooklyn and patterson.

  we had the full package, what i mean is, not only we took the tour, but we also had someone to invite us for lunch.

  while we wanted to enjoy our stay there, there was always a weird feeling being there.

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  ToesUp

  Anyone associated with Beth Hell expects something. Have you ever had a CO, pioneer or Bethelite pick up the tab for anything? They are broke. They are living off of the backs of others, the ones they insult for having a good job and an education. They will insult you but they LOOOVVEE your money!
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  This Website Was Mentioned By The Governing Body

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  okay, so at the "imitate their faith" ca there was a special speaker from the gb.

  and he started discussing psalms 1:1 and how we today could "sit in the seat of scoffers".

  he then mentioned that many bros. and sisters criticize the org and think they are so smart by researching online.

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  The GB are making it way TOO EASY to criticize them! They are writing the material for us. ha ha
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  Caption This Photo From The January Study Edition

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. social
  2. humour

  so as some are probably aware the january study edition has two articles on the anointed.

  one basically discouraging people from believing they are anointed and another about how ones should view partakers.

  this photo is from the second article:.

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  So you can question an anointed person but you can't question the GB being of the anointed? The JW's are the biggest bunch of hypocrites.

  Growing up in this religion, we were taught NEVER to question the anointed. My how things have changed.
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  Australia - Elder Jailed Over Sex Abuse

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  another one.. https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/30810834/church-elder-is-jailed-over-sex-abuse/.

  a jehovah’s witness elder who sexually assaulted two vulnerable teenagers he met through the church was sentenced to three years jail yesterday over the “destructive” abuse.. david frank pople, 68, met the boys through the safety bay congregation of the church and assaulted them between 1989 and 1996.. one of the teens reported the sexual assaults to elders in 1997 but police were not made aware of the abuse until he filed a police report in 2014.pople was forcibly ejected from the church for being “insufficiently repentant” in 1997 and readmitted the following year at his request.. district court judge troy sweeney accepted pople was genuinely remorseful but said he had interfered with his victims’ natural maturing process in a “very destructive way”.“a message must be sent that child abuse is abhorrent and will not be tolerated by any civilised society,” she said.“they were vulnerable because they were young and because you were a church elder and their boss.”.

  when pople admitted assaulting one of the boys during a conversation with an elder in the 1990s, he was told a judicial committee would be formed to deal with the issue.the elders spoke to pople in an apparent attempt to determine his level of remorse and later sent a letter to certain members of the congregation explaining in great detail why he had been ejected.. pople was in his 40s when he assaulted the boys at work, on his yacht and in his shoalwater home.he was close friends with the parents of his first victim and had helped the second victim with his bible studies.. defence lawyer nick scerri told the court pople was candid with the leadership of the church and made “very frank admissions” about some aspects of the offending in 1997.he said his client has been living three lives and was “deeply unhappy” when he assaulted the boys.“he had the life of the family man, the father, the husband,” mr scerri said.

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  It's interesting that Brother Lett stated in the Broadcasting a few months ago, that the child abuse issue was "apostate driven lies." This sick man who molested these children admitted it in a court of law. Really..."apostate driven lies?" Several others have admitted these CRIMES as well. "Apostate driven lies?"