for years the society has said that over 40,000 a year are disfellowshipped.
add to that the 10's of thousands who simply disassociate or fade.... so by that logic, would it be correct to assume there are actually more former witnesses on the earth than the number of current active witnesses ?
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Remember the come back to Jah brochure. If you leave it's YOUR fault. They never have and never will look at what they do to contribute to people hitting the Exit. Narcissists NEVER look at themselves as the problem.
Until they change their abusive behaviors, the pattern will continue. In my opinion, that is a good thing. The down side is all the damage they are doing to people and families. It's heartbreaking.
(i am still a serving elder.
i have no idea how much longer i can stomach it.
timing is terrible for stepping down right now, though.
xjwsrock
I sent you a pm.
(i am still a serving elder.
i have no idea how much longer i can stomach it.
timing is terrible for stepping down right now, though.
xjwsrock
Just curious. Is the wife of the brother accused of cheating baptized and does she still attend meetings?
http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2181.
24 may 2016. russia: jehovah's witnesses face possible liquidation.
by victoria arnold, forum 18. if prosecutors proceed with their threat to liquidate the jehovah's witness headquarters near st petersburg, thousands of local congregations across russia could also face prohibition of their activities and individuals could be vulnerable to criminal charges for expressing their beliefs, forum 18 notes.. the jehovah's witnesses' principal body in russia is under threat of dissolution as an "extremist" organisation after the deadline in an official warning from the general prosecutor's office expired on 10 may, forum 18 notes.
i've been reading so much lately about the pre message of the rc is about downsizing and living in bunkers.. are we getting ahead of ourselves?
living within your means has been a good piece of advice.
i do have a big house, but along with that i have to pay extra to heat it, extra work to clean it, more on residential taxes, worries about the volatile house market.
I think so many JW's feel the same way. They have been watching WT live the good life. GB has nice housing, food, transportation, insurance, maids, cooks, drivers, waiters, laundry, barbers, doctors and lawyers at their disposal. If I (we) want those things, we have to pay for them. In order for us to pay for them, we have to work HARD. I believe there are some really bitter still in JW's who are tired of putting their needs on the back burner (education and good paying jobs), so the GB can be "taken care of."
LURKERS: VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS!
im in the process of drifting out.
my entire family are jw's.
my wife and her family are too.
I agree with millie. You are gonna be fine. You sound like a really good person. Go slow even though you want to scream out everything you think and know.
Keep venting on here, it helps. So many have been right where you are now. It's tough. Hang in there. Keep us posted.
in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .
(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.
i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?
in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .
(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.
i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?
sir82, you are correct, there are some JW's in prison today. The cult has ruined and continues to ruin lives. My spouse and I are somewhat bitter, as are many on here. A very close relative of ours went to prison and we realized the full on impact this had on not only his life but his families. It is a long story and there is some real bitterness here. It hit's close to home.
We feel sorry for those lives that will be impacted for years to come.
in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .
(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.
i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?
My spouse just made a good point. When are the JW's going to "stand up straight and lift up your heads, because your deliverance is getting near.” Luke 21:28
If they were truly proud of what they stand for, wouldn't they stand before their authorities and those persecuting them, instead of cowering in a bunker. There were men in 1940's (close relative did this) who went to prison "for the truth." These kind of men NO LONGER exist! These men today would sh*t their pants if put in prison "for the truth." They wouldn't last 5 seconds.
When will they stand tall and proud, "for the truth?" NEVER!
in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .
(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.
i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?
