Posts by ToesUp

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The most sick statement put in JW print

by Chook in

wt 1973 p568.

"did you know, for example, that mothers and fathers that stroke the genitals of their fretful babies to keep them quiet are unwittingly encouraging them to become maturbators later on?".

what sick fu... writing this article thought the the average person did this to keep kids quiet..

ToesUp

Yes...that is a sick one! This is a very disturbed group of people. Why the hell they put that in print is beyond me.

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How successful are others at getting ex-dubs together?

by dubstepped in

jw
friends

for my first shunniversary i reached out to the local ex-dubs that i know.

i invited 11 total to join me in a little get together at a local restaurant, then back to my house to hang out.

one friend asked if he could invite others, and i encouraged him, and all, to do so.

ToesUp

"the whole JW thing is an ugly chapter they'd rather leave behind,"

I think you hit the nail on the head on that one. I know my trust does not go as far as it used to. I am working on that. Maybe a lot of the ex JW community have trust issues as well.

dubstepped...you and your wife sound like fantastic people. Maybe one day when our life and responsibilities slow down, we can meet some of the wonderful people in the community.

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Circuit ASSembly low-lites

by FedUpJW in

so in an effort to relieve some pressure here are what i term the low-lites of yesterday's assembly that i had to endure for the sake of family still in and my progressing fade.

apologies in advance for being pretty long winded.. these may not all be the actual words used, but the ones i use are close, and they pretty well say what was said from the platform.. right off the bat in the opening prayer the praises of the governing body were spoken.

thanking the g.b.

ToesUp

Have you seen the video of Splane directing the orchestra? What a nut job he is! Thinks so much of himself! Legends in their own minds. I wonder when the GB will "be gone, in the twinkling of an eye?" Me thinks they will be in the Cayman islands! :)

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My sources say Jr brown has died

by poopie in

jw
friends

end of era.

ToesUp

"When the crowd erupted from his statement, he added to a bigger eruption: "Children, if you don't know what that means, ask your parents!"

Hey...WT opened my eyes about masterbation in the original Youth Book.

WT is constantly talking about sex. Constantly! For such a "clean organization" they sure do dwell on sex a lot.

This statement above is sick. I would be pissed if one of my small children asked me what an orgasm is. What a sick cult.

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Circuit ASSembly low-lites

by FedUpJW in

so in an effort to relieve some pressure here are what i term the low-lites of yesterday's assembly that i had to endure for the sake of family still in and my progressing fade.

apologies in advance for being pretty long winded.. these may not all be the actual words used, but the ones i use are close, and they pretty well say what was said from the platform.. right off the bat in the opening prayer the praises of the governing body were spoken.

thanking the g.b.

ToesUp

"There was the normal shunning=good comment, a brief aside about the possibility of some having to move to congregations in another town to consolidate "use of dedicated funds by reducing the number of KH"

They are setting up Kingdom Halls being sold. In the business world, companies do not sell assets if they are thriving. Hmmm!

We have 2 mega churches withing 5 miles of our home that are adding massive additions on to keep up with the growth. So much for Babylon the great falling.

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The shunning has started and... I like it!

by oppostate in

so not having turned in a time-slip in a loooooooong time and making fewer and fewer meetings, and from time to time attending a local church service... the majority of local dubs are overtly shunning me.

there are those who i talk to and who visit our home from time to time, but this last meeting i went to hardly anyone made eye contact, when i greeted folks passing by me, they ignored me.

it actually felt good.. i was surprised at my reaction.

ToesUp

Let em shun away! Just make sure when you bump into any of the JW's you have a big ole smile on your face! Let em see how happy you really are.

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JW elder on the street I live in.

by Thisismein1972 in

so just the other day i happened to look out my window to see the cobe and the elder who studied with me on the doors.

it got me thinking.. i remember one day, during my study that he said he loved me.

although he meant this as a "brother" it actually sent me into, what i can only describe as shock and alarm!

ToesUp

"Why do we spend so much time door-to-door, while "weak" ones are ignored and end up leaving?"

Oh my gosh, how many times I have asked this exact question. I never got an answer.

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JW elder on the street I live in.

by Thisismein1972 in

so just the other day i happened to look out my window to see the cobe and the elder who studied with me on the doors.

it got me thinking.. i remember one day, during my study that he said he loved me.

although he meant this as a "brother" it actually sent me into, what i can only describe as shock and alarm!

ToesUp

"If this work is so urgent, and he truly did love me, wouldn't this elder be practically knocking my door down to get me to turn around?"

You would think so BUT don't count on it. We have family members that have known we are out via rumors and talk within the JW community. We know this for a fact. Have they done anything...hell no. Either they don't have the balls, don't believe the JW crap either or are happy for us, therefore, leaving us alone.

I guess you have to appreciate the fact that they are not hounding you.

With all the busy work WT give the JW's, you would think they would be envious of you.

Enjoy your freedom!

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Stuck

by Cindy in

i feel so stuck.

i am married to a wonderful man.

i have been married for almost a decade and adore my husband.

ToesUp

I agree with everyone's advise. Move slow and steady. Eat the elephant, "one bite at a time." It's a lot to process.

25

Stuck

by Cindy in

i feel so stuck.

i am married to a wonderful man.

i have been married for almost a decade and adore my husband.

ToesUp

I am sorry you are dealing with this. It is tough.

I too was raised in a JW family (Elder father). Our situation was a bit different.My spouse and I both had doubts for years and are into our third year fade. At this point, we really don't care if everyone knows.

No one can tell you what to do. Everyone's story and situation is different. Unfortunately, there is NO easy way to leave this religion. Where else in life do you loose your ENTIRE social circle and family because you don't believe everything that is taught? It is truly sad.

There is a saying that I always stick to by William Shakespeare ..."to thine own self be true." I personally stick to this one throughout life. My personality does not allow me to do something I don't truly believe in. You may be a different type of person. It is a catch 22 for you due to being married to a uber spiritual man. If you reveal your doubts you will get the parroted replies, " you need to pray more, go to more meetings and service." It is their answer for everything. I tried this and still had the nagging doubts. You have to ask yourself the question, "if I decide to stay in, can I deal with the doubts and put on a happy face, all the while I am screaming inside?"

I can tell you that the only way that I could deal with it was to hit the liquor store on the way home from the meetings. If I were "still in" I truly believe I would be a raging alcoholic. Now I can have a glass of wine because I really enjoy it, not because I need it. We have so many still in family members that are reliant on alcohol and anti depressants. It is incredible. They could not survive without these two things. Why? You are supposed to be the " happiest people on the earth." Google the 2 words, cognitive dissonance. This explains why so many within the organization are depressed. I believe we escaped before we allowed the depression to take over.

Like I said before, it is your decision and you have to do what is best for YOU and your family.

I really feel for you. It is a tough situation. Hugs to you. Keep us posted on any changes.

BTW, this is a great place to vent. You might not agree or like everyone who posts but if you are able to read through some posts, you will get some great ideas and thoughts from others. Be open minded and think, think, think. Like I tell my kids, "never stop learning."