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  Witnesses vying for "who has the biggest trials to cope with"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  it struck me that witnesses have mastered the art of revelling in "trials and problems" that require "enduring".

  of course, the persecution complex, and the paranoia about these "wicked last days" no doubt contributes to this.. if one witness has some health issue, or if another has a family drama, they seem to revel in sharing these stories amongst their witness friends...almost in an attempt to elicit sympathy.. has anyone else noticed this?.

  most normal people though outside of the org, simply recognise that life has its ups and downs, and need to be dealt with..

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  Yes, we see it too. It's who has the most "endurance."

  We have family members who have problems. My spouse and I have had problems before (we all do). We muddled through. Our JW family members couldn't find their way out of a paper sack. They blame Satan for everything and then sit on their hands waiting on Jehovah to send a resolution to their problems. We know it doesn't work that way but trying to get them to see that THEY have to actually change their lifestyle is like trying to reason with a tree. Frustrating as hell.
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  This is the official Warwick gossip thread

  by Chook in

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  anyone from headquarters can give us a sneak preview of life with gods people and how it's going.

  all members on here can encourage our future members to come out and taste what is good outside of wt control.

  are there scandals in the wind ?.

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  Chock - yeah I am surprised no photos have been posted yet of the GB members apartments. I am sure they are just standard Bethel rooms?

  security must be tight in the non public areas?
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  Pedophile on The Governing Body

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the bottom line there is zero tolerance for any homosexual activity in jehovah’s holy organization.

  so all known gays had been kicked out and disfellowshipped before i got to bethel and gays got kicked and disfellowshipped and disgraced when i was there.

  sorry, i guess i meant most homosexuals were kicked out in disgrace.

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  Watchtower has been hiding stuff for years! They have been corrupt since day one. Let's hope the internet is blowing the lid off of them. I know of several active JW's who have recently discovered YouTube and are learning so much. Happy days!
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  Update: My current situation

  by Issa in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's been about two months since i stopped attending meetings, came to the conclusion that the org is not the truth, and i'm currently dealing with some problems since leaving the org.

  i want to discuss these problems and hopefully get helpful advice.. discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort - fred rogers.

  my current situation in this: i faded and hold off on writing a disassociation letter.

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  I agree with everyone, don't speak to the Elders. We faded 4 plus years ago and have not met with one Elder. They try but we don't bite. If they come to the door, we don't answer, if they call, we don't call back. If we bump into them we act happier than we ever have been (we are) and if they ask intrusive questions don't be afraid to tell them politely that you don't feel the need to discuss that with them. If they offer to call or come by just respond, "I am doing fine and if I feel the need to have you call or visit, I have your contact info." Like someone said above, they only have the power over you that you give them. The less you speak, the better. Yes, they will shun you, no matter what. That is their issue, not yours. Yes, it hurts but unfortunately, there is no really easy way to leave a cult. You seem to know the consequences. We did too. Has it been worth it? HELL YES! FREEDOM IS SO WORTH IT!
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  Just need to vent a little

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
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  in the last week i have had three visits from brothers.

  so 6 witnesses in all as they come in pairs.

  now considering i used to go to the meetings, sit by myself and literally no one talked to me - ever - why the concern all of a sudden?.

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  Magnum hit the nail on the head with his post.

  We were told recently that our life may not be bad yet but it will get bad. You see, they (WT) has it and YOU don't. lol
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  Just need to vent a little

  by Phoebe in

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  in the last week i have had three visits from brothers.

  so 6 witnesses in all as they come in pairs.

  now considering i used to go to the meetings, sit by myself and literally no one talked to me - ever - why the concern all of a sudden?.

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  Phoebe

  I had a sister (Elders wife) criticize my dress and look several years back. I literally tore her a new one. Lol She was speechless and embarrassed. Don't let people insult you. You sound like an amazing person.

  There is a quote by Eleanor Roosevelt, "no one can criticize you without your consent." I love that one.

  Hugs!
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  Just need to vent a little

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
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  in the last week i have had three visits from brothers.

  so 6 witnesses in all as they come in pairs.

  now considering i used to go to the meetings, sit by myself and literally no one talked to me - ever - why the concern all of a sudden?.

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  They call it lovebombing. The JW's are not having any success in converting new ones. They have to rely on the born ins and get the "weak" back.

  I had the same thing happen. It's bizarre!
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  Pioneers Living With Married Couple

  by msecodo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so ... situation:.

  a baptized married couple, with no privileges that we know of, have opened their home to 2 unmarried regular pioneers because of the pioneers' financial issues (limited income).. - husband works from home.

  - wife doesn't work and stays home or in service.

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  They should ask the Elders if married and unmarried people live together under one roof at Bethel homes? What's the difference?
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  When JWs Pray for Houston

  by NJ501 in

  1. watchtower
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  when i hear prayers given by brothers why do they only pray for other jws not all people??

  i remember hearing a comment from my mother saying 4000 jws are affected by this...and i'm thinking yes that is sad but what about the tens of thousands other people affected?

  too me it just doesn't seem right to just pray for jws but to pray for all victims.

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  ToesUp

  If JW's can turn their back on their closest family members what would make them care for anyone who is a non JW. No natural affection at its best.

  Like Tor said above, JW's just don't get it until it directly affects them. We have witnessed this first hand. Sad!
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  August 31, 2017 BOE Re: Procedure for Handling Certain Cases of Wrongdoing

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  august 31, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: procedure for handling certain cases of wrongdoing.

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  ToesUp

  Watchtower is running out of people so if one of their "special" ones screws up "give us a call so we can decide on how to sweep it under the rug." Are some of these "special" ones starting to question the fabulous 7?

  Whitewashed graves full of dead men's bones.