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  How much do you think the internet has hurt JW growth?

  by HereIgo in

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  the internet is what helped bring me and so many others out of this evil organization or at least confirmed our doubts.

  i have to say, i have seen quite a few youtube videos recently of ex jw's secretly recording their interactions inside of different congregations, halls, etc and see how empty the halls are!

  so many people comment on how the attendance is so low, far more emptier than when i was in 6 years ago, even on a weekday meeting.

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  Telling people not to look at the internet is like telling an Elders not to look at porn. You know most look at the evil apostate sites. It's just hard to get them to admit out loud that they have been duped. No one likes to admit they have been duped and lied to. We had to come to terms with it but most just bury their head in the sand and move on. The beautiful thing about it is, once you see it you can't unsee it! Yeah....long live the internet!!!!

  All you have to do is Google Jehovah's witnesses and a boat load of juicy info comes up.
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  Assembly experiences that strech the truth

  by karter in

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  elder and his wife build a flash house.. they go on the stage at an assembly and give an experiences of how they sold the flash house to simplify their life so they can go pioneering.. the real story.. elder and wife can't afford the flash house and have to sell it he never goes pioneering she does until they are declared bankrupt.. why were they bankrupt?.

  the money leaft over from the flash house they invested in a yet to be build apartment and the developer goes bankrupt takeing their money.. just one of many.. karter..

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  Several years back my spouse and I experienced this at a circuit assembly. We knew the families very well. Both experiences were WAY OFF. We knew the circumstances well. We looked at each other in shock. One of the experiences was how this particular brothers parents were a shining spiritual example for him. It was sugar and spice and everything nice. The only thing they forgot to mention was, the son, was just reinstated a few short months prior. He was DF'd for having sex with a sister in our Hall. His parents set such a good example and no one (except those in our congregation) knew the "rest of the story." I actually received a phone call from a sister in another hall, she knew the circumstances also and could not believe they used the family as an example on an assembly part. It happens!
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  New Jehovah Witness Convert

  by Eddie Fernandez in

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  hello house,i am sorry for bumping in like this, ii am a newly baptized jehovah witness, i have been a christain all my life any but i love this new insight and teaching,so i am looking to find a jehovah witness lady that can help me grow strong in faith,i would rather meet someone here because we would take time to get to know each other before we meet, this is a light about me,i am 37 , single, never married and have no kids,i have a good sense of humor, i am loving, caring and trustworthy.i'm an easy going person and i try to stay clear of any drama.i am presently in living in lexington,kentucky but willing to move soon.i am a reserved man,now i am ready to settle down and i'm looking for a woman i can vibe with on a spiritual and intellectual level, i want love and commitment,i am intelligent and successful but let me not toot my own horns,thanks for taking your time to read this.attached my picture and i did include my mobile number.+1 913-730-5780looking forward to hearing from you .thanks.

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  Eddie

  Do you own a boat? If so, please send picture. Lol
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  What Type of Elder Body Did You Have?

  by minimus in

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  i was an elder in two different congregations and both were conservative and strict, especially congregation number one.

  it was headed by a former branch servant as they were called back then.

  all elders were by the book.

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  Ok....they didn't give a sh*t, is that better?
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  What Type of Elder Body Did You Have?

  by minimus in

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  i was an elder in two different congregations and both were conservative and strict, especially congregation number one.

  it was headed by a former branch servant as they were called back then.

  all elders were by the book.

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  A bunch who could have cared less about anyone.
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  Witnesses vying for "who has the biggest trials to cope with"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  it struck me that witnesses have mastered the art of revelling in "trials and problems" that require "enduring".

  of course, the persecution complex, and the paranoia about these "wicked last days" no doubt contributes to this.. if one witness has some health issue, or if another has a family drama, they seem to revel in sharing these stories amongst their witness friends...almost in an attempt to elicit sympathy.. has anyone else noticed this?.

  most normal people though outside of the org, simply recognise that life has its ups and downs, and need to be dealt with..

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  Yes, we see it too. It's who has the most "endurance."

  We have family members who have problems. My spouse and I have had problems before (we all do). We muddled through. Our JW family members couldn't find their way out of a paper sack. They blame Satan for everything and then sit on their hands waiting on Jehovah to send a resolution to their problems. We know it doesn't work that way but trying to get them to see that THEY have to actually change their lifestyle is like trying to reason with a tree. Frustrating as hell.
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  This is the official Warwick gossip thread

  by Chook in

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  anyone from headquarters can give us a sneak preview of life with gods people and how it's going.

  all members on here can encourage our future members to come out and taste what is good outside of wt control.

  are there scandals in the wind ?.

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  Chock - yeah I am surprised no photos have been posted yet of the GB members apartments. I am sure they are just standard Bethel rooms?

  security must be tight in the non public areas?
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  Pedophile on The Governing Body

  by new boy in

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  the bottom line there is zero tolerance for any homosexual activity in jehovah’s holy organization.

  so all known gays had been kicked out and disfellowshipped before i got to bethel and gays got kicked and disfellowshipped and disgraced when i was there.

  sorry, i guess i meant most homosexuals were kicked out in disgrace.

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  Watchtower has been hiding stuff for years! They have been corrupt since day one. Let's hope the internet is blowing the lid off of them. I know of several active JW's who have recently discovered YouTube and are learning so much. Happy days!
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  Update: My current situation

  by Issa in

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  it's been about two months since i stopped attending meetings, came to the conclusion that the org is not the truth, and i'm currently dealing with some problems since leaving the org.

  i want to discuss these problems and hopefully get helpful advice.. discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort - fred rogers.

  my current situation in this: i faded and hold off on writing a disassociation letter.

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  I agree with everyone, don't speak to the Elders. We faded 4 plus years ago and have not met with one Elder. They try but we don't bite. If they come to the door, we don't answer, if they call, we don't call back. If we bump into them we act happier than we ever have been (we are) and if they ask intrusive questions don't be afraid to tell them politely that you don't feel the need to discuss that with them. If they offer to call or come by just respond, "I am doing fine and if I feel the need to have you call or visit, I have your contact info." Like someone said above, they only have the power over you that you give them. The less you speak, the better. Yes, they will shun you, no matter what. That is their issue, not yours. Yes, it hurts but unfortunately, there is no really easy way to leave a cult. You seem to know the consequences. We did too. Has it been worth it? HELL YES! FREEDOM IS SO WORTH IT!
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  Just need to vent a little

  by Phoebe in

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  in the last week i have had three visits from brothers.

  so 6 witnesses in all as they come in pairs.

  now considering i used to go to the meetings, sit by myself and literally no one talked to me - ever - why the concern all of a sudden?.

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  Magnum hit the nail on the head with his post.

  We were told recently that our life may not be bad yet but it will get bad. You see, they (WT) has it and YOU don't. lol