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  Elders and Attendants sing, clap and turn backs on Street Preacher after Duluth RC.

  by ToesUp in

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  very strange behavior by the attendants and elders after the duluth, ga, rc.

  on the first link the attendants start to exit the arena, then line up and turn their backs on the street preachers.

  (around the 6:00 mark).. elders and attendants after duluth rc.

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  Solzhenitsyn

  Sent you a PM.
  
  
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  'Serving where the need is greater' - who does it benefit?

  by eyeslice2 in

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  we have recently been in asia on vacation, travelling to a number of countries in this part of the world.

  whilst in thailand, my wife, totally pimo, wanted to go to the english speaking convention in bangkok.

  although i haven't been active for a very long time, i went along with her.. the first thing that slightly surprised me was the attendance, well over 900. i hadn't expected that many but they were from all over the country, which is a pretty big place.

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  We have some family that became "need greaters." It was an excuse to get out of dodge. Once things got bad where they are, the need greating becomes a place to escape to. One thing they found out was, their problems follow them and then they move off to another place that "needs them."
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  WT is lying about the actual publisher numbers

  by JustHuman14 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i left wt, 18 years ago.

  never thought that i would have witness such a massive doctrinal and structure changes as well.

  i find it hard to recognize that religion.. what i can tell, like all of ex jw's is that wt going down.. their corporate directors know it.

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  NO!!! WT wouldn't lie would they? lol It's "theocratic warfare!!!"
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  2 mothers---2 sons.

  by stan livedeath in

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  2. beliefs

  first mother...a friend of mine--in her 60's.. her son--is 42. he is less than useless.

  his last long term relationship ended 3 years ago when his wife to be called off the wedding and kicked him out of her house.

  he went back to live with his mummy--rent free.

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  You just can't make this stuff up!!

  It looks like your ex is missing out on a outstanding son and family. Her loss! It is sad but let her enjoy her cult while you enjoy your freedom and family.
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  Hello Everyone, Another JW Has Left!

  by SuperGirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just want to introduce myself and let you know that this site is working and is a big help to lots of jws with doubts.

  i've been lurking for about a year, the first couple of times i was frightened and literally shaking visiting an apostate site but it's the only place i can come to for sanity.

  the religion has become a nut house.

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  Welcome SuperGirl. You have made my spouse and my day!!! It is so good to hear people are leaving. Once we stopped attending, we lost touch with everyone.

  We have not attended a meeting in over 5 years. We faded and took our kids with us. We are 100% out. We are not DF'd or DA'd. Once we stopped turning field service time in, we were dropped like a rock. Our "friends" in the org no longer exist. When we told our family that we were done with the religion, they still spoke to us but we notice they keep their distance. We are like the plague I guess. lol

  It is very disturbing how they all just drop you but I CAN assure you it is well worth it. Our life is MUCH happier without witnessing all the judgement, hypocrisy ans self righteousness that these people seem so good at.

  I am glad that your child and your ex are out also.

  Keep moving forward and trust that there are good people out there. They are not the evil people that we were taught they were. They actually LIKE you for who you are, not what you are.

  Our kids are thriving and once we got past the disturbing fact, that those who abandoned us were not our "friends" we were able to move on.

  If our family doesn't want us then that is their loss and their choice. We told them that we would be here for them but if they chose not to, we would have to understand.

  I am glad you found us. There are so many on here who have been right where you are. We may not all agree 100% of the time but you will receive support and guidance along the way.

  This site taught us how to deal with the nosy JW's and prying Elders.

  Keep us posted on your progress and start enjoying the life we were all meant to live!!! Hugs!!!
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  If you are reading this Courtney and Helene

  by newsheep in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  please please contact us by private messaging us.

  we didn't know what to put this under so sorry in advance but this is why we are here.

  courtney was a co serving in another country when his father was dying.

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  Courtney, if you are on here.

  I don't know you or your story but man did that ever take some balls to do. I love people with backbone!!! Good for you. We need more people like you!!!

  Hope you are doing ok!
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  My brother-in-law is mentally out!

  by Kathy1978 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so....i’m going to rewind for a second.

  one of my brother-in-laws came over one evening late in 2016, november i think, just to hang out.

  we hadn’t seen him in a while and this is before we told anyone in his family we were out.

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  GREAT NEWS!!!

  We are hoping one day our family will come around!!
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  Commuter Bethelite video

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those who missed last weeks clam meeting, there was a video played that was amazing ... however not in good way.. we are all aware how thousands of full time bethelites world wide got the boot and put out onto the street.

  some having giving most of their lives to the organization, but often with no real way to support themselves other than to depend on the generosity of others.

  so when this video talked about how special it would be for those who could step up and become a commuter bethelite, it made me think how calculating the governing body must be.

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  We know of some called "remote Bethelites." I guess it is the same thing, WT doesn't have to supply and pay for their housing, food, etc. It's a great gig for WT.

  I agree, WT is playing a shell game. Moving the pieces around so they don't look so obvious. Some see through it and others think that this is the way Jehovah (aka...the Watchtower) wants it.
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  Can we ever get our loved ones out?

  by SnakesInTheTower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a post on another thread got me to thinking and writing.. should we even be trying to get our loved ones out of jehovah's witnesses?.

  when a person truly believes in their belief system, or even if they don't but have held to that system for a long time, there is nothing we can say that will move them from that system.. why?

  perhaps pride.

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  Our older jw family is better off in the Borg. Leaving would destroy EVERYTHING the have. They already have crap for life, so leaving would just add to the crap they already have.

  They would have NO WHERE to go on Thursday or Sunday and they have zero social circle outside of the WT. None still in have too much involvement with anyone at their jobs or they don't work at all.

  Leaving their "JW comfort zone" would be detrimental. We have decided to just leave them alone and when we speak to them, it is just small talk. It's just better this way.
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  New introduction

  by formerministerial in

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  hello to all of you,.

  here goes an introduction of a new member.

  i'm 45 years old now and we wake up my wife and i from borg a few years ago.. i'm living between spain and france, due to my work.. it has been always refreshing to listen and read many of you here.. i hope it will continue the same..

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  Welcome to your freedom!!!