degerro, The Searcher just posted the letter today on a different post titled : Does anyone have a copy of the BOE letter regarding the KH money grab?
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172May tv.jw.org program
by zophar inthe may broadcast on tv.jw.org.
we need money!.
http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.
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May tv.jw.org program
by zophar inthe may broadcast on tv.jw.org.
we need money!.
http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.
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done4good, you are 100% right, they are doing all the damage we would love to do all by themselves. No help from us. It's a wonderful thing! Give someone enough rope, eventually they will hang themselves. -
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let's show this cartoon to a modern Jehovah's witness
by opusdei1972 inif they knock my door, i want them to explain me what this cartoon mean......
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Wow...that's one messed up piece of you know what. Yikes!!! -
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Kingdom Hall loans Cancelled? Lurkers...please read
by ToesUp ini hope that writing this, there will be some lurkers that i can shake.. if you have not listened to mays tv broadcast, please do.
it may wake some up.. note @ around 21-22 minutes into the broadcast lett brings up the the kingdom halls/assembly hall loans have been cancelled and the congregation can now send in what they can afford.
wow...how many banks would do that?.
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bradford, you are probably right. This cult stuff is a strong thing!
snugglebunny, The Searcher just posted the letter on a different post : Does anyone have a copy of the BOE letter regarding the KH money grab?
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Does anyone have a copy of the BOE letter regarding the KH money grab?
by ToesUp inif anyone has a copy of the letter regarding the kingdom hall money grab (including the 2 pages the congregation did not see) can you please post a copy or copy and paste it.. thanks!.
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Thank you for posting that Searcher!
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Kingdom Hall loans Cancelled? Lurkers...please read
by ToesUp ini hope that writing this, there will be some lurkers that i can shake.. if you have not listened to mays tv broadcast, please do.
it may wake some up.. note @ around 21-22 minutes into the broadcast lett brings up the the kingdom halls/assembly hall loans have been cancelled and the congregation can now send in what they can afford.
wow...how many banks would do that?.
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I hope that writing this, there will be some Lurkers that I can shake.
If you have not listened to Mays TV broadcast, please do. It may wake some up.
Note @ around 21-22 minutes into the broadcast Lett brings up the the Kingdom Halls/Assembly Hall loans have been cancelled and the congregation can now send in what they can afford. Wow...how many banks would do that?
What Lett fails to mention, is that there was a BOE letter regarding this. Page 1 was to be read to the congregation but page 2 and 3 were for the Elders eyes only. Well, on page 2 the question is asked: " What amount should be used for this new resolved monthly donation?
The answer: "The elders in congregations currently making loan repayments would likely propose a resolution that is at least the same amount as the current monthly loan repayment"
Ok, think about this...my bank (who holds my mortgage) calls me up and tells me that they are going to cancel my mortgage (cool!) BUT I have to continue to send the same amount to them every month for the remainder of my life. Let's say my mortgage would have been paid off in 10 years with my original mortgage. Cool...now I have a paid off home in 10 years. Now...the new way, let's say I live until I am 80 years old. Now I have to pay them the same amount for another 30 years? Ok, I am not a mathematician here but who's getting the raw end of the deal here? Me, me, me!!! I am an idiot if I go along with it.
It also asks the question on Page 3 of the letter: "What should be done if congregation funds are not sufficient to cover resolved donations?"
The Answer: "If sufficient funds are not available for all resolved donations in a particular month, additional funds should not be solicited. The elders should determine what amounts from the congregation funds that are available at the end of the month will be applied toward the re-solved monthly donation(s) and whether the shortfall should be made up in future months."
Ok, so don't solicit the funds but we will get the short fall in future months. Lett states that the "congregation can send in what they can afford." This is not sending in what you can afford. The congregation either has to send in the amount from the end of month available funds in the congregation or make up for it later.
Most publishers do not know that there is a Page 2 and 3 of the letter. There is a reason for that. Why not read page 2 and 3 to the Congregation. Do they have something to hide?
I listened to the May Broadcast and then directly read the BOE letter. I am disgusted!
I have been raised in this organization and at one time had some hope in these "men." They are dirty rotten scoundrels, living off of the ones trying to survive on what we can. They are cashing checks from little old ladies/men who are living off of rice and beans. They are using people for free labor!
It hurts that we all have been duped (including me at one time). No more!
Please everyone, vote with your wallets and THINK.
Rant over.
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Does anyone have a copy of the BOE letter regarding the KH money grab?
by ToesUp inif anyone has a copy of the letter regarding the kingdom hall money grab (including the 2 pages the congregation did not see) can you please post a copy or copy and paste it.. thanks!.
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If anyone has a copy of the letter regarding the Kingdom Hall money grab (including the 2 pages the congregation did not see) can you please post a copy or copy and paste it.
Thanks!
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May tv.jw.org program
by zophar inthe may broadcast on tv.jw.org.
we need money!.
http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.
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"We have more money going out than we have coming in."
I would like to quote a scripture, Luke 14:28. For example, who of you wanting to build a tower does not first sit down and calculate the expense to see if he has enough to complete it?
Hey GB...practice what you preach!!!!
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May tv.jw.org program
by zophar inthe may broadcast on tv.jw.org.
we need money!.
http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.
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Wing Commander...Amen! I agree, once the monies start to dry up they WILL set up tithing. It's funny, years ago (probably over 30 yrs) I told my husband if they ever started begging for money I was outta here. Wow...how ironic, they are steadily begging for money and I'm "outta here!" -
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May tv.jw.org program
by zophar inthe may broadcast on tv.jw.org.
we need money!.
http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.
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Pretty much the entire broadcast is asking for money (giving of your valuable things) and giving volunteer time. It's funny...when we needed assistance (not money, just simple love and encouragement would have been nice) during a difficult time, all we got was "trust in Jehovah." Seems like the tables have turned. Why don't they "trust in Jehovah?" After all they are his earthly representatives. Shouldn't he help them out? Things that make you go...Hmmm!
I love the hooky song at the end, reminds me of the Mormons.
All take and no give in this cult. How are they different that Christendom? Always begging for your money.
Hey everyone (even you lurkers).....Vote with your wallets!!!