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  Time to Spill my Guts

  by Hadriel in

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  been lurking around here for several weeks.

  posted once or twice but not too much.

  i'm a covert fade at the moment.

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  That is sad that so many of us had to give up things we may have been good at. Broken dreams and broken promises.

  You are doing a great job. Direct the kids in what they love to do. We always tell our children, "we weren't allowed to pursue this or that because the end was so close. You both have the opportunity to do what we couldn't." They are doing great!

  Kids are resilient! I tell my spouse all the time, "if we can just keep them away from the JW mentality, they will be fine. lol They are fine and your children will be fine too. Love them, guide them, listen to them and give them room to thrive. You sound like a terrific parent! Rock on Hadriel!
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  Time to Spill my Guts

  by Hadriel in

  1. jw
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  been lurking around here for several weeks.

  posted once or twice but not too much.

  i'm a covert fade at the moment.

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  We also left when our kids were teens. I don't think they really felt like a part of the congregation. You see, my husband was not an MS or elder. Like you, he never had the urge to reach out. I wonder why! (sarcasm) This has a large impact on how kids are treated in the congregation. No uber Daddy, no invites!

  Our kids are fine. We talk to them about things . We are very open and honest with both of them. Kids are not stupid, they know more than we think. We never encouraged them to get baptized. I wonder why! (sarcasm again).

  Be honest and candid with your kids. They can see the cracks, just as well as we can. Our children have found more genuine, caring and kind friends in the "world." I truly believe if our home was destroyed this evening our friends and neighbors would drop everything to help. People are typically kinds by nature. We've just been brainwashed all of our lives that every non JW is sporting a pitch fork and horns. NOT TRUE!
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  Time to Spill my Guts

  by Hadriel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  been lurking around here for several weeks.

  posted once or twice but not too much.

  i'm a covert fade at the moment.

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  Hadreil

  Have you Read Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz? I have been reading it and it is a real eye opener! My spouse read it when we began our fade. It was jaw dropping for him!
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  My Bethel Experience Part 3

  by new boy in

  1. jw
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  don't get me wrong...........there was no one more self righteous, than me at 19. i moved to kansas at 18 to pioneer and even printed up cards that said............ .

  "have sword, will travel"---------contact casarona salina kansas------ aaa which of course meant available after armageddon..

  oh, i was full of myself!

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  Keep writing. Good stuff!

  You're right...a good ole boys club!
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  Time to Spill my Guts

  by Hadriel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  been lurking around here for several weeks.

  posted once or twice but not too much.

  i'm a covert fade at the moment.

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  Welcome Hadriel

  Take it slow. Don't react too quick. Unfortunately, there is no easy way to exit this religion. We go back and forth on just pulling the band aid off and telling our family (they all live in different cities, so it makes it a little easier). We have not done that yet but we think our families are suspicious. You are correct, sometime it does feel like wearing wet clothes. Good description.

  Angus Stewart said it correctly during the Australian Royal commission, "the WT is a captive organization." It uses all your friends and family to keep you captive to them. I think there are a lot of people starting to wake up. The dominos could be beginning to fall. Next years Yearbook #'s will be interesting.

  Keep us posted on your progress. We have all been and some are still exactly where you are at. It's disheartening to find out that everything you ever believed in was a lie.
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  My Bethel Experience Part 2 Memory Lane

  by new boy in

  1. jw
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  back to the food..........the saying there was "its the best food in the world before they cook it" the coffee was the really bad.

  they would take a 55 lb.

  bag of good coffee beans and boil the shit out of it.the joke was if anyone could find the guy that made the coffee, and kill him, our production would go up and armageddon could finally come.

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  new boy....looking forward to Part 3. My spouse and I are enjoying your Bethel experiences.

  What sums it up for us (fading...haven't been to a meeting, etc. for almost 3 years) is what the guy leaving after 4 years said to you. "They don't give a shit about you here"........" That is exactly why we left 3 years ago. This is the exact statement I made to my spouse. We are 100%++++++ happier out then we were in.

  How you put up with that old Bat, I don't know. I would have lasted 5 seconds at Bethel. I would have but the chicken backs where the sun don't shine.

  
  
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  Lyman Swingle (GB) told me what would bring down the Organization!

  by new boy in

  1. jw
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  it was about 15 years ago.......... i was at a one day special event in woodburn or.

  i was talking to lyman swingle about how the society could save some money.

  it was a crazy idea ( to crazy to relate here)...............anyway he laughed and said to me.. "brother..........we have always had the money to do the things we needed to do.......and if we didn't.......we felt it was god's holy spirit telling us, it wasn't what we should be doing".......so...i said "so the money is like a barometer, no approval, no money"......he said "yea..... i guess you could say that!

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  Very ironic
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  2015-12-28--Insurance!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2015-12-28 liability insuranceclick the green download button.http://fileflyer.com/view/mazfoac.wtunderground!

  (if fileflyer locks up this time i will just have to find another hosting site.

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  I remember going through greeting cards at the store, looking for cards that DID NOT say best wishes. This was a no no. My....how things have changed. We even saw, dancing, singing and performing at the Kingdom Halls and Assembly halls, just about a year and a half ago. Full bands! We couldn't even play a recording of a "worldly song" at our wedding in the 80's. Things that make ya go ....Hmmm!
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  Blood Cards on File with the Elders?

  by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

  1. watchtower
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  i have a question for elders here or recent elders.

  were the elders, in the last 10 years, given instruction to keep a copy of every publishers blood card on file at the kh?.

  we moved to our current cong 6 years ago, and shortly after we moved in, the boe requested everyone update and give a copy of card to the kh.

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  Our Elders were too lazy to make copies of the blood cards and keep them on file.

  I shredded mine!
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  Chapter 1 My Bethel Experience First Posted 9 Years Ago A Walk Down Memory Lane

  by new boy in

  1. jw
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  part 1. i when to bethel march 21,1970. at the time you had to be a pioneer for two years to apply, by the time i left in 1974 they were calling people in who had never pioneered..........average stay was 5 months (they had signed up for 4 years)..........the reason they left was......well, it was hell.. one of the reasons was, knorr hated bethelites, but he loved the gilead students and why?

  because when they screwed up they were thousands of miles away!........just before i got there, they had kicked out over 30!

  homosexuals (at one time) ....the would kick out 1-2 bethelites a week.

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  "Gary will DIE at armageddon because he doesn't do what I tell him to do".

  This is the JW attitude. They should put that one on a plaque and make it the text for the year. They love this one. Oh...can you feel the love!