Don't know why post was flagged dislike. Sorry. Great post
Posts by ToesUp
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32The disappointed look on a Jehovah's Witness face - that you're living a good and fulfilling life
by jambon1 inanother thread got me thinking of this issue.
i don't think you'll ever come across a set of people with such a skewed and twisted outlook on life.. my memory serves me well when i recall a sort of blood lusting excitement over things like the 9/11 atrocities.
in fact i remember jw's describing the event as 'sad but exciting.
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The disappointed look on a Jehovah's Witness face - that you're living a good and fulfilling life
by jambon1 inanother thread got me thinking of this issue.
i don't think you'll ever come across a set of people with such a skewed and twisted outlook on life.. my memory serves me well when i recall a sort of blood lusting excitement over things like the 9/11 atrocities.
in fact i remember jw's describing the event as 'sad but exciting.
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ToesUp
"The best thing you can do is to live a good, productive life. Believe me, they hear about it. You don't need to go about bragging. Shouting 'I'M HAPPY' from the rooftops. Just live your life. Your productive and happy existence will have them scratching their heads as they look around at how many problems exist in the 'spiritual paradise.'
Be happy."
Great post! Yes, this is a doom and gloom cult. It perplexes them when you are happy. That's why my spouse and I are supper happy when we bump into a JW. "We're doing GREAT" throws them for a loop. The look on their faces is priceless!
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Living as Christians at the C.L.A.M this week
by Truthexplorer inthis weeks meeting under the section - living as 'christians', starts off with 'repentance makes a difference', which is a talk given by an elder taken from w06 11/15 27-28 par 7-9. in a nut shell it discusses those who have been disfellowshipped and then show repentance.
it then goes on to discuss reinstatement and how a certain amount of time must pass by before this can take place.
it makes the following point in the paragraph.. 'a disfellowshipped person is not automatically accepted back into the congregation after a certain amount of time has passed.
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ToesUp
"the secret elder book with all its rules"
We are under many rules and laws in my country but at least I can find the rules and regulations. They are not hidden.
We are happified that WT has now made those hidden laws/rules available to the public via the ARC. I will be posting these on a separate link later today. Thank you WT!
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Living as Christians at the C.L.A.M this week
by Truthexplorer inthis weeks meeting under the section - living as 'christians', starts off with 'repentance makes a difference', which is a talk given by an elder taken from w06 11/15 27-28 par 7-9. in a nut shell it discusses those who have been disfellowshipped and then show repentance.
it then goes on to discuss reinstatement and how a certain amount of time must pass by before this can take place.
it makes the following point in the paragraph.. 'a disfellowshipped person is not automatically accepted back into the congregation after a certain amount of time has passed.
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ToesUp
For all of you lurkers. (Every active Jehovah's Witness has a right to know all the rules they are under!)
My copy of the Elders Book a.k.a. Shepard the Flock of God book was obtained legally.
It is an exhibit provided from the Watchtower lawyers to the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. The book is available for the public to review and is the latest copy directly from the Watchtower.
This is not from apostates, so you can feel confident the copy is genuine.
Here is the link to the exhibit page. Once you get to the page scroll down until you find:
Marked-up copy of Shepherd the Flock of God. The PDF is to your right.
Royal Commission Exhibits - Shepard the Flock of God Book -
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Living as Christians at the C.L.A.M this week
by Truthexplorer inthis weeks meeting under the section - living as 'christians', starts off with 'repentance makes a difference', which is a talk given by an elder taken from w06 11/15 27-28 par 7-9. in a nut shell it discusses those who have been disfellowshipped and then show repentance.
it then goes on to discuss reinstatement and how a certain amount of time must pass by before this can take place.
it makes the following point in the paragraph.. 'a disfellowshipped person is not automatically accepted back into the congregation after a certain amount of time has passed.
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ToesUp
It was not meant for me to read? OH....I am shaking in my boots.
Ok, all my buddies on here... help me repeat it.
I WILL NOT FEED THE TROLLS, I WILL NOT FEED THE TROLLS, I WILL NOT FEED THE TROLLS! LOL
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Living as Christians at the C.L.A.M this week
by Truthexplorer inthis weeks meeting under the section - living as 'christians', starts off with 'repentance makes a difference', which is a talk given by an elder taken from w06 11/15 27-28 par 7-9. in a nut shell it discusses those who have been disfellowshipped and then show repentance.
it then goes on to discuss reinstatement and how a certain amount of time must pass by before this can take place.
it makes the following point in the paragraph.. 'a disfellowshipped person is not automatically accepted back into the congregation after a certain amount of time has passed.
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ToesUp
"If they commit a sin they face the same consequences as any John Pub would."
Oh, Really? Not according to the Shepherd the Flock Book, page 38.
"If it comes to light or an appointed brother confesses that he has committed a disfellowshipping offense years in the past: The body of elders may determine he can continue to serve if the following is true: The immorality or other serious wrongdoing occurred more than a few years ago, and he is genuinely repentant, recognizing that he should have come forward immediately when he sinned. (Perhaps he has even confessed to his sin, seeking help with his guilty conscience.) He has been serving faithfully for many years, has evidence of God's blessing, and has the respect of the congregation."
Looks to me as if these sinners get a Get out of Jail free card. The double standards are incredible in this organization and if you don't see it you are completely BLIND!
I have watched several young family members and friends get PR and DF'd and the same did not apply to them. I have never shared this above info to a family member but I believe one day I will. Try explaining this quote to the ones who were punished. This is the stuff that is kept confidential and is not to be seen by the congregation. You see, if Brother Elders kids gets PR'd or DF'd, Daddy knows all the inside scoop with the Elders instruction book. The average publisher and parents of a minor is not privy to this info. The kid/adult goes to the Elders with his/her heart in the hand, thinking they will have their "head greased with oil" but they walk out with their mouths hanging open. They don't know what hit em. We have witnessed this first hand and to say the publishers get the same treatment as the Elders/GB is BS.
This is the stuff the lurkers on here need to know.
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Living as Christians at the C.L.A.M this week
by Truthexplorer inthis weeks meeting under the section - living as 'christians', starts off with 'repentance makes a difference', which is a talk given by an elder taken from w06 11/15 27-28 par 7-9. in a nut shell it discusses those who have been disfellowshipped and then show repentance.
it then goes on to discuss reinstatement and how a certain amount of time must pass by before this can take place.
it makes the following point in the paragraph.. 'a disfellowshipped person is not automatically accepted back into the congregation after a certain amount of time has passed.
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ToesUp
"If you commit a grevious error you are subject to public punishment from the body of elders.
If Watchtower leadership commits a grievious error, they are not punished nor do they face any consequences."
Correct...you get DF'd if YOU make a mistake but when it's THEM...."it's an organization made up of imperfect men." How many times do we hear that one. It's a cop out!
I don't buy it! Double standards are a common theme with the JW's. Too many contradictions to even keep up with.
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Thanks to this forum 14 years ago I broke free
by Happeanna ini belonged to this forum for about 5 years ; 14 years ago and made many good online friends here.. it became my new family for awhile and i am very grateful for all the help i received.. for the first time in 10 years i went into a kh for a funeral, bearing in mind it was at the hall where my husband had been the presiding overseer and regular pioneer for many many years.. they were very surprised that i remembered all their names and was confident and happy.. someone said so are you back in the truth, i said simply !
yes i have my truth, thanks.. the elder in question said " well time will tell ?
"and i said yes it has hasn't it, but we aren't in competition..
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ToesUp
"They hate it when you are happy and confident.
the only thing they want to hear is that you're miserable/suffering somehow."
You are 100% correct with this statement.
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CO's never say thank you for the green handshakes
by suavojr inever noticed how co's and ex-do's never say thank you for the hard earned money they get from the friends?
they truly believe they are entitled to live an easy life at the expense of others.
this makes my blood boil!
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ToesUp
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No Sports Cars Please!
by snugglebunny ini read on a jw forum that jw's came in for disapproval if they drove either sports cars or 2-door cars.
the reasoning was that a driver couldn't easily take fellow dubbies out preaching in such a vehicle.
was that ever official policy or just local nonsense from a grumpy po?.
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ToesUp
The only reason they "advise" you to buy a 4 door is because they are jealous and would love to have one themselves. So they label you materialistic. Remember, anything fun and enjoyable is frowned upon. Just another rule in the JW world.
Buy the 2 door! Have fun and enjoy it, if you can afford it.