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  JW Expressions We Hate

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  i was browsing through stuff on jw.org recently and ran across some expressions that really grate on my nerves: loyal love, loving-care, and loving-kindness, as in: "please exercise loving-kindness toward your servant.

  " who talks like that?

  they must be relics of the fred franz era.

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  Kingdom interests
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  Who can you trust to admit you have doubts?

  by MrMonroe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (that is, doubts).

  in margaret atwood's "the handmaid's tale", a futuristic story of life inside a repressive, abusive big brother-style society tightly controlled by religious fundamentalists, there's a passage in which the protagonist is alone with another woman at a state-controlled centre where prayers are generated -- then printed out and read out -- by a machine.

  the other woman asks, in barely more than a whisper, "do you think god listens to these machines?

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  Boy MarkofCane your post is spot on. We are experiencing the same thing with our family. They can't handle the truth, it would kill them. They would loose all of their social connections and it would be devastating.
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  Honeymoon over for the carts

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
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  speaking with inlaws i another congregation today who said exactly what is being said in our own hall.

  the trolly work is long and boring and no one even notices they are there anymore but walk right on by.

  jehovah really is speeding up the work lol.

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  More people are on the internet checking out EVERYTHING they come across. The internet is making a huge impact on who wants to become involved with these crazy cults. By nature, people will avoid anything that has "stink" on it. WT has a lot of "stink" on it. The internet is a wonderful thing for the JW's. More and more are checking it out.

  The only way WT will have any kind of minimal growth is by baptizing all the born ins.
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  Who can you trust to admit you have doubts?

  by MrMonroe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (that is, doubts).

  in margaret atwood's "the handmaid's tale", a futuristic story of life inside a repressive, abusive big brother-style society tightly controlled by religious fundamentalists, there's a passage in which the protagonist is alone with another woman at a state-controlled centre where prayers are generated -- then printed out and read out -- by a machine.

  the other woman asks, in barely more than a whisper, "do you think god listens to these machines?

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  Who can you trust? NO ONE!
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  You Are Unsuitable!

  by Divergent in

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  today's text -.

  sunday, january 24. they collected the fine ones into containers, but the unsuitable they threw away.—matt.

  13:48.. understanding the lesson of this illustration helps us to avoid being overly distraught or disappointed if a bible student or one of our children does not make the truth his own.

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  We felt unsuitable when we were still attending. Why would we remain somewhere we are not wanted? Translation of unsuitable is unloved. Maybe this is the reason we are seeing so many new ones on here. They feel unsuitable or unloved. Hey WT, keep up the good work. Your verbal abuse is working great. Your donations are down and people are walking. Good job!
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  JW Expressions We Hate

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was browsing through stuff on jw.org recently and ran across some expressions that really grate on my nerves: loyal love, loving-care, and loving-kindness, as in: "please exercise loving-kindness toward your servant.

  " who talks like that?

  they must be relics of the fred franz era.

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  Proper food at the proper time.
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  JW's Funerals, Forget About The Person! Let's Preach.

  by new boy in

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  god forbid you would talk about the dead person at his funeral.

  so what do most people get after living 70-80 years?.

  a 5-10 minutes eulogy.

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  Ttdtt

  You were one of the good guys. It seems the good guys figure out this cult is BS. Seems to be a pattern.
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  JW's Funerals, Forget About The Person! Let's Preach.

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  god forbid you would talk about the dead person at his funeral.

  so what do most people get after living 70-80 years?.

  a 5-10 minutes eulogy.

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  I agree BUT, it all depends on who you are. We have been to JW funerals where all they talk about is how much the deceased has contributed to kingdom interests. Brother so and so had a large part in getting our new assembly hall. If you're a regular guy you get the standard funeral talk. If you're a big wig you get a true ulogy. We've seen it 1st hand. It's all about who you know and how much money/time you contribute.
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  "If I wasn't born a JW, I would never have become one."

  by OneEyedJoe in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've seen it mentioned by a few on the forum that at some point there was a realization that had they not been born a jw, they never would've converted no matter how many times the jws tried to study with them.

  this was my experience too, and i'm wondering how universal it is for those that were born-in but eventually left.

  i think i started having this thought (more specifically that if i were not born a jw, i would surely have become an atheist by now) in my late teens.

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  OneEyedJoe

  It's funny you ask the question. My spouse and I talk about that all the time. My spouse always says..."I wonder what makes a non JW want to become a JW. What's the attraction?' We are both born in.

  I wonder sometimes if the instant friends that you receive, once you join the cult, is what attracts them. The ones we know that came into the cult as adults are all very social. They have little accepted groups they belong to.

  We would have NEVER joined if we were born in . We just don't see the attraction. Let's see...no education, no material possessions, no non JW friends, no facial hair, no short skirts or tight blouses, no tight pants, no birthdays, no holidays, no social gatherings (even with JW's), no vacations (unless it's Brooklyn Bethel), no children. The list goes on and on. Gee....I wonder why we would never have joined.
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  You don't paint the rooms on the Titanic

  by TTWSYF in

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  this was the line my nephew gave me regarding why jws don't give alms.

  i had several rebuttals to give him, but didn't.

  i was hoping for some comments from this board.

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  I actually believe that these arrogant/self righteous "people" would love to see others destroyed. I believe they would sit there and watch with a smirk on their face. There is a certain type of person that is attracted to an organization that looks forward to others dying. Maybe that is why I never dug my hooks completely into their beliefs. I was always on of the JW's that had the WTF look on their face.

  These are the comments that infuriate me and confirm that I made the decision to leave this very disturbing and destructive cult.