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  RUSSIA: Jehovah's Witnesses face possible liquidation

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2181.

  24 may 2016. russia: jehovah's witnesses face possible liquidation.

  by victoria arnold, forum 18. if prosecutors proceed with their threat to liquidate the jehovah's witness headquarters near st petersburg, thousands of local congregations across russia could also face prohibition of their activities and individuals could be vulnerable to criminal charges for expressing their beliefs, forum 18 notes.. the jehovah's witnesses' principal body in russia is under threat of dissolution as an "extremist" organisation after the deadline in an official warning from the general prosecutor's office expired on 10 may, forum 18 notes.

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  ToesUp

  Yep...the old persecution card is being used AGAIN! Fear is a powerful tactic.
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  HGTV special . Small Bunker homes for JW's

  by Quarterback in

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  i've been reading so much lately about the pre message of the rc is about downsizing and living in bunkers.. are we getting ahead of ourselves?

  living within your means has been a good piece of advice.

  i do have a big house, but along with that i have to pay extra to heat it, extra work to clean it, more on residential taxes, worries about the volatile house market.

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  I think so many JW's feel the same way. They have been watching WT live the good life. GB has nice housing, food, transportation, insurance, maids, cooks, drivers, waiters, laundry, barbers, doctors and lawyers at their disposal. If I (we) want those things, we have to pay for them. In order for us to pay for them, we have to work HARD. I believe there are some really bitter still in JW's who are tired of putting their needs on the back burner (education and good paying jobs), so the GB can be "taken care of."

  LURKERS: VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS!
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  Drifting what i've feared has started already...

  by pale.emperor in

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  im in the process of drifting out.

  my entire family are jw's.

  my wife and her family are too.

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  ToesUp

  I agree with millie. You are gonna be fine. You sound like a really good person. Go slow even though you want to scream out everything you think and know.

  Keep venting on here, it helps. So many have been right where you are now. It's tough. Hang in there. Keep us posted.
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  "The Bunker" WT Conventions 2016 (Gag Me)

  by Poztate in

  1. watchtower
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  in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .

  (paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.

  i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?

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  I believe there was a recent GB members who visted those in prison (I think it was Sanderson). He mentioned that when he arrived the imprisoned Brothers were somewhat unresponsive. YOU THINK? There is prison! Oh it was a wonderful experience to all the head bobbing JW's. One difference, the GB member (along with his pinky ring and Rolex) got to return to his cushy life in New York.
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  "The Bunker" WT Conventions 2016 (Gag Me)

  by Poztate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .

  (paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.

  i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?

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  sir82, you are correct, there are some JW's in prison today. The cult has ruined and continues to ruin lives. My spouse and I are somewhat bitter, as are many on here. A very close relative of ours went to prison and we realized the full on impact this had on not only his life but his families. It is a long story and there is some real bitterness here. It hit's close to home.

  We feel sorry for those lives that will be impacted for years to come.
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  "The Bunker" WT Conventions 2016 (Gag Me)

  by Poztate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .

  (paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.

  i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?

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  My spouse just made a good point. When are the JW's going to "stand up straight and lift up your heads, because your deliverance is getting near.” Luke 21:28

  If they were truly proud of what they stand for, wouldn't they stand before their authorities and those persecuting them, instead of cowering in a bunker. There were men in 1940's (close relative did this) who went to prison "for the truth." These kind of men NO LONGER exist! These men today would sh*t their pants if put in prison "for the truth." They wouldn't last 5 seconds.

  When will they stand tall and proud, "for the truth?" NEVER!
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  "The Bunker" WT Conventions 2016 (Gag Me)

  by Poztate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .

  (paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.

  i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?

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  ToesUp

  Bottom line...the WT has ALWAYS been batsh*t crazy! lol
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  Wow... There More Closet Faders Than I Thought

  by pale.emperor in

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  yep, im still fading.

  i know it's gonna be a long and meticulous process but so far it's going well.

  isnt it funny how when you stop reading the material and stop thinking yourself of being unworthy all the time - eventually you get happier and happier each day and see the world around you the way it is?

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  ToesUp

  "But what surprised me the most is that he told me of a very active couple we know who've left. No disassociated but stopped going entirely. Apparently they're not comfortable with the direction the borg is going and have concerns with the backtracking, deletions and distortions in the literature. This is a couple that you'd see on convention demos, interviews etc - the kind you'd see in the DVD's telling us how Jehovah has blessed them."

  This is the stuff that excites us. Seeing the most loyal fading. It's wonderful and we look forward to hearing of more of these ones just disappearing. Poof...gone! So exciting!
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  Txt with uber dub relative. You decide.

  by joe134cd in

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  this is the actuall txt.

  i have included spelling mistakes and everything.. relative = brother x passed away this morning just thought i would let you no.

  joe = man everyone is dying.

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  ToesUp

  JW's favorite catch phrases:

  "Leave it in Jehovahs hands" Translation: We can't explain it either, don't worry about it. Shut the hell up.

  "The organization if full of imperfect men." Translation: Get over it and move on. There is nothing we can do about it. Suck it up!

  There are so many more. The funny thing about it. When one of the regular rank and file members are pulled into a JC and interrogated to the point of humiliation, NO ONE states the above catch phrases. They make a decision over your entire life, DF or reprove you and publically humiliate you in front of the entire congregation. Then 2 or so weeks later they give a talk to the congregation, letting all know the sin you committed.

  BUT when you know some higher ups or have money and can some how benefit the cult, they will say the above catch phases and life goes on. Or if you are an elder and have sinned in the past and some time has passed, and you bring that sin to the Elders you get a free pass (see the Elders handbook page 38, paragraph 19 & 20. That's fair?
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  2016 Regional Convention - Sunday Morning synopsis

  by Jehalapeno in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  via reddit.

  here are the morning program highlights.

  will update for the afternoon once it's all over.

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  ToesUp

  Imagine, you have to use fear tactics to keep your mate/significant other loyal to you. Yeah, that relationship has a snowball's chance in hell of being a successful one.

  I find it exciting that they are using the fear. It shows that they are worried about keeping ones loyal. On the other hand, it worries me. What Sir82 wrote: "I fear this will send the more mentally unstable JWs over the edge. "