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How do you deal with depression?

by BlackWolf in

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i'm currently going through a bout of depression and my eating disorder has gotten worse.

ever since my parents actually told me that they are going to kick me out when i turn 18 i've felt kind of hopeless about my life.

my parents won't take me to the doctor because the psychiatrists won't have my "best interests" aka jw crap in mind, because really that's the root of all my problems.. i'm wondering if any of you guys have any advice with dealing with depression?

ToesUp

Keep busy. If you can, throw yourself into getting a good education. This will allow you to get a good job/career so that one day you can take care of yourself without your parents. We have a teenager that we are encouraging to receive a good education. Dad and I may not always be around to help out. It seems you can not rely on anyone else but yourself now days.

It is sad that parents can actually threaten their own child. I wouldn't treat a dog that way, much less my own child.

Sorry that you are struggling.

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Mark Sanderson Talk re Belgium visit

by Listener in

the degradation of the governing body members continues on.

mark sanderson gives a talk regarding his visit to belgium for the memorial this year and was travelling from korea to munich to brussels, belgium on the day of the belgium terrorist attacks.he cannot wipe the smirk on his face as he relates his experience, with no regard whatsoever of all those unfortunately affected by the attacks.

in fact, he personally found god's hand affecting him personally, allowing him to attend the memorial as planned and a kh dedication.he is that privileged during his flight travels that internet was available to him, enabling him to catch up on current news and to contact branch's.

ToesUp

Well Mark, we are glad Jah had his hand in getting you safely there. Praise be! Too bad for the poor people who were injured and killed in the attack. I guess Jah was too busy to get involved with their outcome. What a load of crap! This is what happens when you are so out of touch with reality. So glad we are OUT!

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So Are Inactives officially SHUNNED?

by minimus in

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i've read here that inactives are the same as disfellowshipped, treatment wise.

is that correct or did i misread it??

thanks......

ToesUp

"It's not cyclic when they need something from you:"

If you can provide the JW's with something (money, a place to live, someone to care for your physical needs) they will not shun you. It's all about THEM! The acorn doesn't fall far from the nut tree located in NY!

I believe some are staying in until mommy/daddy or grandparents die. How many will leave once they receive their well deserved inheritance? Hopefully MANY!

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So Are Inactives officially SHUNNED?

by minimus in

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friends

i've read here that inactives are the same as disfellowshipped, treatment wise.

is that correct or did i misread it??

thanks......

ToesUp

"Well all invitations I would normally get stopped, and no one bothers with us any more. So in practicality yes - thought that is a blessing really"
Exactly ttdtt. We wanted everyone to leave us alone when we started our fade. They eventually gave up on us. Is this disturbing? Yes...we are human BUT we wanted them to leave us alone. We can't have it both ways, leave us alone and then bitch when they don't come around or call. Quite frankly, I prefer not to associate with anyone I feel unacceptable in MY life. I have a say in my associates just like they have a say. If you are in an abusive relationship, why would you want to go back? Just my 2 cents.
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Today's Text - Fear Mongering, Great Tribulation, & New Light!

by Divergent in

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a stupid text which raises many questions -.

sunday, june 26. there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.—matt.

24:21.. the earthly part of jehovah’s organization is moving ahead in various ways.

ToesUp

Fear, obligation and guilt (FOG) all in one daily text! Boy, they must be hurting and getting desperate! Good news indeedy!

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2016-June-Updated-Application-For 17 year old and older!

by Atlantis in

somebody might want his.. .. 2016, june, (updated)-- local design/construction volunteer application form.

.. this application is for exemplary baptized publishers 17 years of age and older.. https://we.tl/2mamrh6rat.

petra!.

ToesUp

Exemplary. I hate that word!

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Are the witnesses working the homeless territory in down town L.A.Calif

by James Mixon in

today after leaving the va center in l.a. i drove around to see the homeless and.

blocks and blocks of tents, card board boxes, hundreds of homeless people with.

a look of desperation on their faces.

ToesUp

The JW's don't really want to see it (homelessness). It's easier to sit on a busy city corner or at an airport and watch society pass by. It's all about the hours, not the saving of lives. We have watched our uber dub family pioneer, serve at bethel and become broke need greaters, without giving a rats as* about the struggling JW (not so uber) family members. If you don't care about your family, how can you care about some stranger walking by or behind a door? If the JW's didn't have to put any hours in, no one would participate in the ministry. Bottom line....they measure you by your title(s), tasks you perform and the hours you put in. Nothing else!

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A Family Divided....Again

by BeautifulMind in

good morning everyone.

well, just as our family was finally all out of the org., getting back to being the family we once were, one of my family members recently went back in.

i won't give many details that will give away my identity.

ToesUp

Sorry to hear this.

"They told me they were struggling with everyone's perception of them since they stopped attending meetings."

This is VERY important to the majority of JW's.......PERCEPTION. What you and your family look like to others trumps everything else. Anthony Morris said it in his interview. "Our sons make my wife and I looks good." That is what it is all about..."looking good." It's important to also have a title, it's a pedigree. No title/low hours equals weak. Well, this weak family is finally enjoying life.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

ToesUp

The interesting thing is, how many other law suits are there and how many more could possibly be filed. If this $4000 fine happens in many other cases that come up, it could add up for WT. WT has been setting this up for a long time (bunker videos, shunning talks, etc). They have set it up to pull the persecution card when they need it. It will be the only card they can play when the child abuse law suits hit them between the eyes. The GB and there fancy lawyers really know what is going on. I believe a sh*t storm is coming for WT and they know it. The rank and file are oblivious and just keep following them like robots.

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Australian Royal Commission

by Coded Logic in

just realized next month it'll be one year since the whole thing began.

anybody heard anything new or know what happens next?.

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ToesUp

Wow! This just say's it all about the Watchtower. It is always YOUR fault!