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  Out of the Mouths of Babes

  by La Capra in

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  overheard in the electronics department at our local walmart,.

  "how would you like your own headphones for the meeting?

  my attention caught, i look up to see a 3-year old in the shopping cart then hear him say in a high whiny voice, "i don't want to go to the meeting.

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  Smart kid!
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  Changes & Clarifications on our belief. DOMINO EFFECT blamed for late coming into print

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the august broadcast bro splane explains this point deeper.. when the brothers are sitting together and joyfully speaking about clarification of jw belief, they often encounter and deal with that "domino-effect" when one scripture has effects on others.

  so all changes are carefully considered before they come into print, one after the other but late.. lately he mentions the "godfathers" brother jaracz , barr as good examples of reading the bible progressivly, they were very progressive at there time.

  what ever this could mean he did not explain it?.

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  Vote with your wallets! The ultimate domino effect!
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  New Monthly Broadcast - BE LOYAL! - Shut Up and Sit Down!

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new broadcast is - predictably - about being loyal to the gb.it's a shut up and sit down message.. one of the funny things they keep bringing up is the correlation between the gb and moses.those who don't listen to the gb are like korah.. this is a false choice, why?let's look at a quick comparison.

  (this is from the point of view of the bible).

  was moses directly picked by god?- yeswas the gb directly picked by god?- well no, we actually are not told how the gb are picked and why the qualify.. did god talk to moses?- yesdoes god talk to the gb- no, they admit they are not in direct communication.. did god inspire moses to write laws and judge.- yesdoes god inspire the gb to write laws and judge.- no, they admit they are not inspired, and they are always wrong and need to change things all the time.. did god give the israelites undisputable proof that moses is his channel?- yes, many miracles visible to everyone one around happenddoes god give jws undisputable proof that the gb are his channel?- no, there is no proof, actually contrary.. was moses ever wrong?- nohas the gb ever been wrong?- every time.

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  I just watched the Broadcast. That is an hour and 6 minutes I will NEVER get back. I have to admit I fast forwarded it just a bit.

  My spouse and I went through a few years of unemployment and financial worry. In the last video of the broad cast the couple (husband lost his job) come home to find a bag of groceries at their door. Funny thing...we never experienced that. Hmmm. In fact, only 1 elder in the entire congregation even asked us how we were doing. No words of encouragement, no offers to come over for a meal, no green handshakes and YES no bags of groceries left at our door. I guess we just didn't meet all the qualifications. I guess we weren't "exemplary" enough to be on the grocery receiving list. lol

  What a crock!
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  Perfect Example of JW Dumbing Down

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just take a look at this video.

  i think arguing or debating scriptures is the most pointless thing ever.

  everything at their meetings are so basic with no explanation.

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  That video just proves the only honest thing a JW has ever said...."religion is a snare and a racket."
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  Recent mistakes of the Governing Body contributing to the decline of JWs

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  they have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.

  some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.

  1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.

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  Sevan

  The Zone meeting talk was an eye opener for us as well. We had already started our fade but that talk was the final straw to keep us our.

  Your comment :

  "I also increasingly noticed how unhappy the friends were at the Kingdom Hall. And how unhappy I was. I just kept thinking about that scripture where Jesus said come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you ... for my yoke is kindly and my load is light. I just kept thinking how that was not the case, how the burden from the Society was so heavy and how we were never good enough."

  My spouse always made the exact statement you made above. NO ONE within the cult seems happy at all. Our entire family and families that are related through marriage are heavy drinkers and are all on anti depressants. So much for the "happiest people on earth".
  
  
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  August JW Broadcasting in Under 2 Minutes LOYAL LOYAL ETC ETC 

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfxkwe0881e .

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  Great editing! Thanks for the reminders on loyalty!
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  I got my Bethel Application approved, I start in September

  by Quarterback in

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  2. friends

  well it took awhile.

  i've downsized.

  got rid of my bmw.

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  So....let me get this straight. You are on a "apostate" website and the holy spirit has approved you for Bethel service. So you duped the system and you are going to be "used" by WT (you have a special skill). If that is what you and your wife choose to do, more power to you. Send us some juicy stuff from Bethel while your there. If they can "use" you why can't you be a little fly on the wall. Theocratic Warfare!
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  Recent mistakes of the Governing Body contributing to the decline of JWs

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  they have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.

  some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.

  1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.

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  neverajw.

  We thought of that theory as well. It seems that the decisions and changes are so blatantly crazy, they seem to want to run everyone off. It is so strange!
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  Recent mistakes of the Governing Body contributing to the decline of JWs

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  they have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.

  some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.

  1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.

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  ToesUp

  They let that moron Anthony Morris on the stage for the Zone meeting talk about a year and a half ago. The one about the 23 year old MS's, tight pants and spanks.

  They had the entire organization listening and this idiot went on and on about men who are not MS's by the age of 23 not being good marriage material. They could have used the time to encourage those ones struggling. Way to go WT, I think you opened many eyes to what you truly are. They are digging their own grave by all the crazy talk and changes. I don't think the "apostates" will have much to do, the cult is doing it for us.
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  New Monthly Broadcast - BE LOYAL! - Shut Up and Sit Down!

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new broadcast is - predictably - about being loyal to the gb.it's a shut up and sit down message.. one of the funny things they keep bringing up is the correlation between the gb and moses.those who don't listen to the gb are like korah.. this is a false choice, why?let's look at a quick comparison.

  (this is from the point of view of the bible).

  was moses directly picked by god?- yeswas the gb directly picked by god?- well no, we actually are not told how the gb are picked and why the qualify.. did god talk to moses?- yesdoes god talk to the gb- no, they admit they are not in direct communication.. did god inspire moses to write laws and judge.- yesdoes god inspire the gb to write laws and judge.- no, they admit they are not inspired, and they are always wrong and need to change things all the time.. did god give the israelites undisputable proof that moses is his channel?- yes, many miracles visible to everyone one around happenddoes god give jws undisputable proof that the gb are his channel?- no, there is no proof, actually contrary.. was moses ever wrong?- nohas the gb ever been wrong?- every time.

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  ToesUp

  So much talk about loyalty to Jehovah (aka...the organization). So much talk about giving of your first fruits (aka money) to Jehovah (aka the organization).

  So WT....worried much? So glad to see the cult sweat!