Do they have that outfit in the approved attire to wear while visiting Beth Hell? Me thinks not!
Posts by ToesUp
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62Convention Videos: Someone messed up royally
by ILoveTTATT2 in.
when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.
it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.
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Buy stuff from the Warwick build
by Darkknight757 ingot another email today about buying stuff.. dear brother butt munch.
in harmony with jesus' words at john 6:12, 'so nothing is wasted', we would like to announce a new location where you can purchase items that were used during the construction of the new world headquarters at warwick, ny.
all funds recouped in this manner will be used to support the worldwide work.. you may visit at the former dairy barn at watchtower farms, 900 red mills road, wallkill, ny 12589. hours of operation are from 10:00am to 6:00pm, tuesday through saturday.
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ToesUp
FOLLOW THE $$$$$!!!
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ToesUp
Enjoy your freedom Tallon and welcome!
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ToesUp
Tallon
Welcome!
You are correct there are some (minority) Elders who are genuine, merciful and try to do the right thing. My question is....we are supposed to a unified people. Why are the Elders not unified? I was raised by 2 loving parents. My father was an Elder my entire life. He used to come home angry from many Elders meetings because he was one of the "good guys". Merciful and kind. He did not always agree with the decisions other elders made. Scenario#1. So if you are on a committee with 3 elders present and one is merciful and the other 2 are not. What is the outcome? Typically the 2 over rule the 1. Now scenario # 2, you are on a committee with 2 merciful elders and 1 ass. What is the outcome on that scenario? So one person gets DF'd because he had 2 asses on his committee and the other guy gets shown mercy because he had 2 of the good guys on his team. My point....where is the unity? It is all in who is making the decision. Again...where is the unified brotherhood? These decisions have very deep impact on peoples lives and are not to be taken lightly. It impacts the person, his or her family and friends and sometimes the persons way of making a living. Bottom line....imperfect. un-unified men should not be holding a persons life in there hands. Never should men be put in a position to judge another man (not speaking of crimes here, imperfect sin). I have witnessed countless times someone getting DF'd for what I would consider a minor offense while someone else commits a much greater offense and receives a slap on the wrist. If there is a God, why don't we leave the judging to him?
We have experienced Elders who have committed sins while sitting on judicial committees, all the while judging others for their sins when they themselves are doing the exact same thing. It is drilled into our brains from infancy that these men are "stars in Jesus hands, princes, a port in a storm, a shepherd". They are touted to be chosen by holy spirit. Where is the holy spirit when these guys are sitting across from you and judging you and they are committing the same sin as you? I don't buy the imperfect man defense. It does not hold water for me. You can't have it both ways..."well we are fine shepherds BUT (BIG BUT HERE) LOL.....we are imperfect men."
The seriousness of the long term impact on peoples lives are what is at stake here. How can you in good conscience DF someone in the congregation and then that person is so distraught they commit suicide. How can you as a man and a Christian live with that? Your decision had a devastating impact on the outcome of that persons life and his family. If you can live with that then I seriously question all that I have been taught. This is one of the many reasons me and my immediate family are no longer associating the JW religion. Too much..."do as we say, not as we do."
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The borg is fighting tooth and nail to not turn over sex abuse records, and the press is taking note :)
by EndofMysteries inhttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.
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“In our case … they adopted similar tactics, dragging our client through years of painful and distressing litigation … We have always maintained that this is a time for apologies, not appeals.”
Watchtower apologizing? NEVER!
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The borg is fighting tooth and nail to not turn over sex abuse records, and the press is taking note :)
by EndofMysteries inhttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.
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ToesUp
If WT has nothing to hide, why do they refuse to provide the documentation? Hmmm!
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Today's Text - Show Appreciation For Elders! LOL
by Divergent inwednesday, august 10. holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of god.—acts 20:28.. it is important that we show appreciation for god’s arrangement for shepherding his flock.
christian elders are a provision from jehovah, who always acts in our best interests.
the elders are “like a hiding place from the wind, a place of concealment from the rainstorm, like streams of water in a waterless land, like the shadow of a massive crag in a parched land.” (isa.
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ToesUp
"Gifts in men, a shelter from the storm?" OMG...gag!
The majority (not all) of the Elders are arrogant, self righteous pricks. We are even witnessing some who are alcoholics and prescription med addicts.
So the holy spirit chooses a man who rapes a child? Really WT!
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Some (the majority) are legends in their own minds. Most (not all) have jobs that they can not advance in, due to the lack of education WT speaks against. They can only get the power and recognition within the congregation. It's the only thing that identifies them. We have seen this 1st hand in our families.
The compassionate Elders/MS's (the minority) quickly get removed or they remove themselves. Some are stuck in and miserable.
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Hidden message in JW bunker video?
by Dunedain inso, i was speaking with a relative recently, who is "in" the borg, but is completely aware of the terrible hypocrisy from the gb down.
he is not in the box, and its great to be able to have a realistic, and logical discussion about the current state of the org.. we started discussing, specifically, about that bunker video that was released in december.
how it is being played at all the conventions.
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ToesUp
It reminds me of the story, the boy who cried wolf. Same thing WT has been doing for years, just this time they put it in video form. It's working on the rank and file. Some of our family members are scared shItless. It's sad when you have to keep the ranks in line by using fear.
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Abandoned by JW and yet trapped
by awake!watcher inhad an enlightening discussion with my 20 something, baptised, awake son.
he said he feels abandoned by the religion, and yet trapped at the same time.
i had never thought about it that way before, but can totally understand where he is coming from.
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ToesUp
It is a form of bullying and WT knows that this bullying works. People return due to family and friends and not Jehovah. The more exposure, in the media and on the internet, the more it will get out to the public that this is a dangerous and abusive cult.