Sorry to hear of your troubles. Unfortunately, if they will do it to you once, they will do it to you again. I actually think some of these guys look forward to being judge and jury. It is a sick cult.
Posts by ToesUp
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21A Hard Lesson Learned
by Disassociated Lady 2 indo you remember that my dad passed away last year and i was going back to the witnesses after 26 years?
i got reinstated after going there for 9 months.
in the 5 months since then i felt the men in the congregation didn't want me there.
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Beards mentioned again in magazine!
by neat blue dog inaaaaaand .
.. it offers absolutely nothing new.. from questions from readers in the december 2016 study edition watchtower:.
"is it proper for a brother todayto have a beard?in some cultures, a neat beardmay be acceptable and may notdetract from the kingdom mes-sage.
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1 Corinthians 8:9...."But keep watching that your right to choose does not somehow become a stumbling block to those who are weak."
The scripture above that is quoted has nothing to do with beards. If you don't follow the WT rules, you may stumble someone.
There is no scripture that says wearing a beard in wrong or not Christian. This is a JW rule, nothing else. Legalism at it's best. Once again WT makes its own rules.
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Idiotic elder training video
by CookieMonster inso i stumbled across this the other day, please excuse me if it has already been posted.
don't know what you think but i found this idiotic, casting stereotypes and dangerous.
so the scenario goes something like this, young brother finds himself in the company of a young lady at a bar.
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ToesUp
Now...if this young brother had kept this info to himself and later became an Elder and the matter became an issue later on, there is a "get out of jail free card" that the Elders can use. It basically states that if an Elder has committed a sin in the past, he's ok. It is in the Elders book. My husband knows the page and paragraph (this is one of the many reasons we are OUT). Maybe someone else knows the page and can post it.
See the double standards and hypocrisy in this cult?
You are correct...it is idiotic!
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"Stay alive until 75"
by Sour Grapes inthis video speaks volumes about watchtower failed prophecies and hyped up dead end promises.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhn6zf1hl2a.
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"I got a blank stare from the whole family."
We have done similar things with our family. We get the same blank stares and no comments. It is amazing to watch. Now you can see why there are certain personalities that remain in this cult. There are still snake oil salesmen in this world and still those who buy and believe in their products. These ones can not cross over to any reasoning whatsoever. Frustrating but amusing to watch sometimes.
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A sucker is born every minute
by Sour Grapes ini was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.
i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.
i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.
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Thank you Sour Grapes for posting that recording. We have several older siblings that also can verify that the 1975 "push" was real. We were small at the time and don't remember. This recording sickens me. I listened to the entire recording on your other post. I copied and pasted my response below.
I am so glad some of the older ones have this proof that these idiots did really make a hype of 1975 .
It goes to show how WT out right lies to its members.
Wow...great recording. Thank you. I have never heard this talk before.
Around 8 min. he speaks about Babylon the Great falling. Several churches in our area are thriving. They have massive expansions of their church. This talk was given 41 years ago.
WT has taken this talk and made new re make video(s). The Bunker video and the resurrection video. They have taken the exact same message and put it into video(s). He states, "some of us may not see it" (remake video...Kevin) Same ole, same ole...wash, rinse, repeat.
"Exert ourselves vigorously." He speaks of knocking at the door (ironic huh?) and it will not be opened to you. It seems they enjoy the fact that they can close that door on the "unrighteous." The arrogance and the self righteousness is incredible! I can't imagine having the same attitude towards family members and close friends..."oh well...you had your chance, so sorry." He even speaks of Jesus having this exact same attitude.
I'm sorry friends, I will choose to take a permanent "dirt nap" then spending eternity with these nutters. How cold and unbelievably unfeeling these people are. I am embarrassed and ashamed that my parents ever fell for this and dragged their children along with them. What were they thinking?
How could we have not seen this our whole lives?
They have "repackaged" the fear and made an entire convention geared around loyalty to Jehovah.
As the Lawyer for Candace Conti (Rick Simons) stated, "if ever there was a group the needs the sun to shine on them and their practices, it's this one (Jehovahs Witnesses)." If there is a God above, how I pray the sun will shine soon.
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"Stay alive until 75"
by Sour Grapes inthis video speaks volumes about watchtower failed prophecies and hyped up dead end promises.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhn6zf1hl2a.
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Wow...great recording. Thank you. I have never heard this talk before.
Around 8 min. he speaks about Babylon the Great falling. Several churches in our area are thriving. They have massive expansions of their church. This talk was given 41 years ago.
WT has taken this talk and made new re make video(s). The Bunker video and the resurrection video. They have taken the exact same message and put it into video(s). He states, "some of us may not see it" (remake video...Kevin) Same ole, same ole...wash, rinse, repeat.
"Exert ourselves vigorously." He speaks of knocking at the door (ironic huh?) and it will not be opened to you. It seems they enjoy the fact that they can close that door on the "unrighteous." The arrogance and the self righteousness is incredible! I can't imagine having the same attitude towards family members and close friends..."oh well...you had your chance, so sorry." He even speaks of Jesus having this exact same attitude.
I'm sorry friends, I will choose to take a permanent "dirt nap" then spending eternity with these nutters. How cold and unbelievably unfeeling these people are. I am embarrassed and ashamed that my parents ever fell for this and dragged their children along with them. What were they thinking?
How could we have not seen this our whole lives?
They have "repackaged" the fear and made an entire convention geared around loyalty to Jehovah.
As the Lawyer for Candace Conti (Rick Simons) stated, "if ever there was a group the needs the sun to shine on them and their practices, it's this one (Jehovahs Witnesses)." If there is a God above, how I pray the sun will shine soon.
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A sucker is born every minute
by Sour Grapes ini was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.
i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.
i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.
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Sparky1
Thats great! Needed a good laugh today!
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A sucker is born every minute
by Sour Grapes ini was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.
i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.
i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.
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"There is nothing quite like graduating from high school and going to work full time because there's no money for food or rent for your parents and two younger siblings."
That is sad. It amazes me how certain ones can not function in the world. WT and Armageddon are like an obsession.
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A sucker is born every minute
by Sour Grapes ini was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.
i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.
i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.
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ToesUp
I agree with Wing Commander. Fred Franz was a loon. Have you ever notice WT is so enamored with sex, whether it is masturbation, adultery, fornication and beasteality . Seems to be a obsession with sex. Reminds me of the saying , "thou does protest to much."
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2016 RC & my family
by BeautifulMind ini hope you are all well.
i haven't posted in a little while.
i've just been adjusting and enjoying my new life outside of the org.
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ToesUp
Great job! That took guts...way to go! Just wait until she realizes that she no longer gets to see her 2 grand babies. It's just incredible that they can turn their backs on their family. Hugs!