Posts by ToesUp

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My Story

by WeatherLover in

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i'm a 4th generation jw.

i started to realize it wasn't the truth over 2 years ago in late october/early november 2014. i don't know how exactly it happened.

i remember i had just heard about confirmation bias, and it hit me: i realized that i would be guilty of confirmation bias if i didn't look at the other side.

ToesUp

" I am overly empathetic when it comes to not upsetting my family, I really can't stand the thought of bringing my mom to tears. "

Welcome. Your statement above shows how much you care for your family.

It's amazing how WT has the family to use as emotional blackmail. It should never happen. One should never have to make that choice. If there wasn't the shunning and DF'ing, you know there would be a mass exit.

Move slow and like Simon said..."do what is best for YOU". Unfortunately, there is no easy way to get out of this cult.

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2017 Circuit Assembly: Lesbians at school demonstration

by darkspilver in

jw
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steve2: is there some way this can be presented so that it is crystal clear what was actually in the demonstrations and what was added?

i guess some will think it should be obvious - but this is where misunderstandings arise because we end up wrongly attributing something to jw organization that was never said.. circuit assembly theme: maintain love for jehovah!.

note to speaker: warmly encourage young ones to prove their friendship with jehovah by observing his commandments and defending his standards.

ToesUp

"I reject homosexual conduct, not people."

Bullsh*t! They don't reject people? They will reject you for picking up a cigarette or simply deciding you no longer want to be a JW. What do you think they would do if you came out as gay? All this cult does good is REJECT. Karma's gonna get em!

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JW Convention 2017

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

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ToesUp

"The theme sounds a little bit desperate!"

Music to our ears...WT is desperate. Karma, it typically catches up to most. Karma is coming for WT. Lots of smiles here.

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JW Convention 2017

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

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ToesUp

I found the running funny too. Ironic. I think they should rename to convention, "PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T LEAVE."

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Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

by AndersonsInfo in

http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

stephanie fessler v watch tower.

stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

ToesUp

Good for you Rebelfighter. You sound a lot like me. I fight fire with fire and can fling sh*t back. ha ha

"I am from a generation where we just hid what went on in the home." My Dad (Elder) never told us what went on the the congregation. If he was in a Judicial Commitee, he would sometimes say, "all that glitters is not gold." Meaning, what appears on the outside, maybe something you would never expect.

My Dad was an Elder (he was kind and compassionate). I just could never figure out why he would not go to bat for me. Now that I have experienced life a little more and know more about the JW cult, I know that the position of Elder identifies some. Some choose it over their own families. He is deceased now and I cherish his memory. I guess I just have to let it go even though it perplexes me.

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Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

by AndersonsInfo in

http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

stephanie fessler v watch tower.

stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

ToesUp

It sickens me that the Elder father did nothing to report this to the authorities. I am now a grown woman and some things were done to me as a kid that I to this day don't understand (not in a sexual nature). It has had a big impact on my life. My dad really did nothing, he was an Elder as well. If what happened to me, happened to my kids, heads would roll. My Dad was a great guy but I really had to fight my own battles as a kid. My dad is deceased, so I can't ask him. I believe it had to do with keeping his position in the congregation. It's hard to believe someone would do this but it happens. The kid is the one who suffers.

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Jalessa Castillo, a Jehovah Witness Pioneer, who joined The Orlando Times Team, maintains a 3.75 Grade Point Average at Valencia College.

by no password in

http://www.orlando-times.com/the_journey_of_jalessa_526.html.

the orlando times.

home.

ToesUp

"I'm am surprised she qualified as a regular pioneer and still going to college."
It's all about who you know in the org. Some Bodies of Elders turn the other way and others are Elder Nazi's. Some bodies of elders will DF ones for years and others will be out for 6 months. We have seen that happen. It is what happens when you put men in charge of judging others. Men with NO holy spirit.

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Not very zealous as before

by anointed1 in

what i sense from the conversations of my family members and relatives who are jws is that at least some jws are not as zealous before with regard to the major subjects such as “sanctification of god’s name,” “vindication of his sovereignty” etc.

they begin to feel that such subjects are imaginary issues.. this is a good sign.

it shows people are worried about their own day-to-day worries.

ToesUp

" It shows people are worried about their own day-to-day worries."

We have noticed this from observing our family members. We believe that they are coming to a realization that they are old and going to die. I believe this is the very first time that they have had to face this. No paradise is going to wisk them from all of their financial woes, aging and sickness. If you keep promising your children that "one day soon we will take you to Disney" and you say this year after year after year, eventually the kids will begin to think, "yeah sure ya will." The thrill and excitement is gone. NOW they are all stuck in an ageing body, dwindling bank accounts, living on minimum social security and no promised Kingdumb. You can hear it in their voices and see it on their faces. Sad!

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Does the Jehovah's Witnesses religoius cult create people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder ?

by Finkelstein in

the american psychiatry association lists nine symptoms – if someone ticks five of these, they could have narcissistic personality disorder.

the nine points of narcissism.

has a grandiose sense of self-importance.. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.. believes that he or she is ‘special’ and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people.. requires excessive admiration.. has a sense of entitlement.. is inter-personally exploitative (takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends).. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.. .

ToesUp

Oh how I wish I could tell you my story. I have been dealing with a family member who is 100% narcissist. I worked with a guy a few years ago that was exactly the same. I did a lot of research on narcissism, so when this family member started interfering in my life, I knew what I was dealing with. Yes, I believe JW's who are especially born into this cult, have these tendencies. It also has a lot to do with how parents treated the child. In my research, I learned that you can not change this behavior. The advise even the professionals give is...RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN FROM THESE PEOPLE.

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My families shunning has gone to a whole new level

by pale.emperor in

8 months df'd.

loving a life of freedom.

however, my family are all shunning me.

ToesUp

"I decided a long time ago to cut ties with my family due to their bad behavior."

I have done the same with an abusive family member. You have to let them know that you will not tolerate their behavior and as hard as it is, you need to RUN NOT WALK away from them. I agree also, that many of them love the attention they receive from other congregation members. "Oh poor sister/brother so and so, their child left Jehovah." Some really get off on all the attention. Very sick and disturbing.