"when i was about to get baptized i was told that right afterwards you feel different."
Didn't feel it. I describe it as static on a tv set. Nothing!
Posts by ToesUp
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45How did you feel when you got baptized?
by Schnufti inback in 2005, i remember sitting in the stadium in the special rows with 42 others.
8000 people were looking at us - maybe even with a binocular - while listening to the speech.
my family and my friends among them, being all proud of me.. i don't remember being enthusiastic.
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Last Sunday's WT Study re Anxiety
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inthis article could be seen as a nice read compared with the banality and repetitiveness of many articles in recent years.
however, several areas in the article still troubled me.
paragraph one externalises the cause of an individual’s anxiety to satan the devil.
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Convention program 2017 AM3
by George One Time inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2017/friday/.
why would our beloved gb member be on the top picture of the program?.
any ideas?.
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Convention program 2017 AM3
by George One Time inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2017/friday/.
why would our beloved gb member be on the top picture of the program?.
any ideas?.
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ToesUp
"But they have no education and few job prospects outside of Bethel. "
These are the 1st ones in the org to criticize YOU for getting an education, having a great job, having children, etc. The list goes on and on. BUT these are the ones who will let you buy dinner, put them up when they need a place to stay or want that wonderful green handshake. I have watched hard working families pay for wonderful things for these "faithful servants of Jah". Cruises, nice dinners, even letting them stay in vacation homes. Did these hard working JW's remind the "faithful moochers" that what paid for these things was accomplished with dirty college money. No..me thinks not! The ubers will criticize you but yet they LOVE living the good life off of your hard working dollar. We have watched and witnessed this for years. The hypocrisy is just staggering!
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Convention program 2017 AM3
by George One Time inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2017/friday/.
why would our beloved gb member be on the top picture of the program?.
any ideas?.
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I remember when I was a kid and one of my siblings left the org. My mother would cry during the experiences at the assemblies. The experience would be of the parents of six...two kids were Elders, 2 full time pioneers and 2 at bethel. I know the reason my Mom cried is because she thought it was something they did wrong. WT is cruel, manipulative and the scum of the Earth for making parents feel this way. I hate this cult!
I often wondered why an Elder was removed when a child left "the troof." Isn't that child an adult and can now choose freely? It reminds me of a parent loosing their drivers license because their kid got a ticket or DUI. It makes NO sense. I guess in JW land, what really make any sense, eh?
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Convention program 2017 AM3
by George One Time inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2017/friday/.
why would our beloved gb member be on the top picture of the program?.
any ideas?.
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ToesUp
Anthony Morris had a feature article in one of the mags about his life. He spoke about his sons, he said that "his boys made him and his wife look good." This says a lot about the man. This is why so many in the org want their kids to be pioneers, bethelites and need greaters. The kids make the parents "look good." This is what it is all about in JW land...."looking good." Whitewashed graves full of dead mens bones!
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March 1, 2017 BOE Re: Update on Local Design/Construction Arrangement
by wifibandit inmarch 1, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: update on local design/construction arrangement.
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ToesUp
WT is doing a dog and pony show again. The natives are getting restless and WT is trying to make it look like they have so much construction going on. What a bunch of BS'ers these guys are. Unfortunately, the uber dubs will be in the audience bobbing their heads up and down and smiling.
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a question for your JW friends
by Carol1111 inthe earth is to wear out and cease to exist.. hebrews 1v11, isaiah 51v6-8.
what will happen to those living in paradise earth?.
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Jehovah will clean his house first...
by tor1500 inwith all the stuff going on in the org.
that is not being said, many of the friends say, well, jehovah will clean his house first....with all this religious hiding of child abuse...what denomination was exposed/cleaned first...although they were forced they were exposed and many still go to these places of worship.
so are the jw really god's chosen channel.
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"The elders may have written to the branch office and given full details about a former child abuser who is currently serving as an elder or ministerial servant. In such a case, if the branch office has decided that he can continue serving in a position of trust because the sin occurred many years ago and because he has lived an exemplary life since then, it will not be necessary to pass on information about the brother's past sin if he moves to another congregation."
This is disgusting. If I move to another congregation, a letter is written to the new BOE about everything about you. NOW, if a elder moves and he has committed the crime of child molestation (notice WT calls it a sin), it is not mentioned to the new congregation. The legal ramifications to this is incredible. If I am a publisher and this new Elder slips up and touches my kid, do you think I am going to be pissed that I was not warned there is a child molester in our midst? I would also hire an attorney and sue the crap out of WT. This is the stuff that is getting WT in so much trouble and will continue to do so.
Wow...just Wow. Thank you wifi for pointing this out.
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The start of a rough patch ahead...
by confused3426 inlast night i told my mom my true feelings on the organization and what i've learned so far.
it all started from a conversation, we need to go visit the new headquarters.
my mom has been studying and just recently became an unbaptized publisher in the spanish cong.
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ToesUp
It is very normal to be scared. We were too. My spouse and I are born ins.
Unfortunately, there is NO easy way to leave this organization.
I think we each have to do what is best for our own circumstances and we each have a story. Myself personally, I am a very strong willed person and my biggest pet peeve is injustice. I am not one to stand around and watch others be treated poorly or watch others (with positions within the congregation) do exactly what they say not to do from the stage. These things do not sit well with me. My spouse and I had this little voice that kept saying..."something is just not right here." Once we left, due to being what WT calls "stumbled", we then learned TTATT. We learned about the UN scandal, the inconsistencies of the Malawi and Mexico issues, the overlapping generation teaching made NO sense, the blood fractions. The list goes on and on. Once we came across these subjects, that was it for us. We just could not sit there silent anymore. We exited 4 years ago.
We know our old "friends" and most of our family will not associate because of our decision but we came to terms with that. We are much happier now. Why is that? We were told we would be miserable. Not so! Our kids seem happier too.
I guess that you have to figure out how best to move forward. I look at it this way...if your family and friends truly love you, they will NOT abandon you. I could never do that to my kids. NEVER!
Hugs to you and keep us posted.
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