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  What is the basis for advising “Don’t pursue higher studies”?

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two elders who visited my friend last week encouraged her not to pursue higher studies.

  it seems they are dishing out the same old stuff: “the end is imminent, and this is the time to do more in the service; hence don’t waste your resources on higher studies.”.

  i wonder whether there was some official communiqué (something that is sent out recently like letter to the elders, or kingdom ministry article …).

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  One thing to remember....there are A LOT of Elders who are not being obedient to WT when it comes to sending their kids to college. The rank and file typically look to the Elders and they have the mind set, "if the Elders are doing it, it must be ok." It makes WT look bad and we know WT and JW's have to "look" good. lol

  The kids who went off to college are moving forward with their lives. They are getting married, purchasing homes, having kids and making it financially. The kids who did not go to college are possibly getting married, living in the parents basement and struggling financially. This now pits the two groups of kids against one another. Little Johnny is an Elder and has a nice home, wife, kids and does not struggle financially when Little Jimmy (an Elder also) over here pursued "kingdumb interests." He and his wife are struggling financially, living with Mom and Dad. Both men are Elders. You don't think there is resentment on the part of Little Jimmy. He was a good little JW and did not go off to college but damn, Johnny and his wife just bought a nice new home and BMW. Little Jimmy then feels a little more superior than Johnny, when WT puts him on the assembly program, telling all the young ones how he sacrificed for Jah and how happy he and his wife are. Really Jimmy, you are happy? We have actually witnessed this scenario above. It is pretty amusing to watch.
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  What is the basis for advising “Don’t pursue higher studies”?

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two elders who visited my friend last week encouraged her not to pursue higher studies.

  it seems they are dishing out the same old stuff: “the end is imminent, and this is the time to do more in the service; hence don’t waste your resources on higher studies.”.

  i wonder whether there was some official communiqué (something that is sent out recently like letter to the elders, or kingdom ministry article …).

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  ToesUp

  Schooling make you learn, learning makes you think. WT doesn't want those who think. WT does the thinking for its members. Follow the $$$$$$!!!!
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  JWs Like to Take Away Hope...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i think the worst thing about jws is that they like to take away peoples realistic hopes for a happy life now and replace it with false hope for the future.

  tell a jw you want to go college and get a good career and they'll tell you that college is a waste of time, that you'll end up in debt or that the economy is so bad there are no jobs.

  tell a jw about how scientists have discovered a new technology that could improve millions of lives and they'll tell you that scientists and technology have "ruined the earth" and cannot be trusted.

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  ToesUp

  It is what JW's do best. Well....next to judging and gossip.
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  JWs Like to Take Away Hope...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i think the worst thing about jws is that they like to take away peoples realistic hopes for a happy life now and replace it with false hope for the future.

  tell a jw you want to go college and get a good career and they'll tell you that college is a waste of time, that you'll end up in debt or that the economy is so bad there are no jobs.

  tell a jw about how scientists have discovered a new technology that could improve millions of lives and they'll tell you that scientists and technology have "ruined the earth" and cannot be trusted.

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  ToesUp

  Yes...we are watching family members waiting on their happiness to begin. The sad thing about it, is they are all old, depressed and broke.
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  How did you feel when you got baptized?

  by Schnufti in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  back in 2005, i remember sitting in the stadium in the special rows with 42 others.

  8000 people were looking at us - maybe even with a binocular - while listening to the speech.

  my family and my friends among them, being all proud of me.. i don't remember being enthusiastic.

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  "when i was about to get baptized i was told that right afterwards you feel different."

  Didn't feel it. I describe it as static on a tv set. Nothing!
  
  
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  Last Sunday's WT Study re Anxiety

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this article could be seen as a nice read compared with the banality and repetitiveness of many articles in recent years.

  however, several areas in the article still troubled me.

  paragraph one externalises the cause of an individual’s anxiety to satan the devil.

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  ToesUp

  I like that one Vidiot. lol

  Elders solution to any problem, more meetings, more service, more studying, more praying, etc. That's what's going to do it eh?
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  Convention program 2017 AM3

  by George One Time in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2017/friday/.

  why would our beloved gb member be on the top picture of the program?.

  any ideas?.

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  ToesUp

  I agree with Steve. These ones could never survive on their own and stand on their own two feet. They can't leave the protective JW bubble. Sad and pitiful!
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  Convention program 2017 AM3

  by George One Time in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2017/friday/.

  why would our beloved gb member be on the top picture of the program?.

  any ideas?.

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  ToesUp

  "But they have no education and few job prospects outside of Bethel. "

  These are the 1st ones in the org to criticize YOU for getting an education, having a great job, having children, etc. The list goes on and on. BUT these are the ones who will let you buy dinner, put them up when they need a place to stay or want that wonderful green handshake. I have watched hard working families pay for wonderful things for these "faithful servants of Jah". Cruises, nice dinners, even letting them stay in vacation homes. Did these hard working JW's remind the "faithful moochers" that what paid for these things was accomplished with dirty college money. No..me thinks not! The ubers will criticize you but yet they LOVE living the good life off of your hard working dollar. We have watched and witnessed this for years. The hypocrisy is just staggering!
  
  
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  Convention program 2017 AM3

  by George One Time in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2017/friday/.

  why would our beloved gb member be on the top picture of the program?.

  any ideas?.

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  ToesUp

  I remember when I was a kid and one of my siblings left the org. My mother would cry during the experiences at the assemblies. The experience would be of the parents of six...two kids were Elders, 2 full time pioneers and 2 at bethel. I know the reason my Mom cried is because she thought it was something they did wrong. WT is cruel, manipulative and the scum of the Earth for making parents feel this way. I hate this cult!

  I often wondered why an Elder was removed when a child left "the troof." Isn't that child an adult and can now choose freely? It reminds me of a parent loosing their drivers license because their kid got a ticket or DUI. It makes NO sense. I guess in JW land, what really make any sense, eh?
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  Convention program 2017 AM3

  by George One Time in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2017/friday/.

  why would our beloved gb member be on the top picture of the program?.

  any ideas?.

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  ToesUp

  Anthony Morris had a feature article in one of the mags about his life. He spoke about his sons, he said that "his boys made him and his wife look good." This says a lot about the man. This is why so many in the org want their kids to be pioneers, bethelites and need greaters. The kids make the parents "look good." This is what it is all about in JW land...."looking good." Whitewashed graves full of dead mens bones!