I don't have a problem with the JW's enjoying themselves. The problem I have with it, is they only invite the elite JW's. These events are ticketed events that the pioneers, Elders and special delegates receive. There is a hirarchy in this organization. The little ole sister who can not physically pioneer anymore, but put years of service in, gets NO invitation. The publisher that puts what WT calls "token service" in, gets no invitation. Maybe that person has long work hours or multiple jobs to support their family. These ones are not even considered. That is my problem. No matter what WT claims, they like there uber JW's and those in the borg who have money. Everybody else is just a "token JW." That's the problem with these events. It's a huge problem within this borg. And they wonder why people are walking away.
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232017 International Regional Convention, Toronto – Entertainment at Sony Centre
by SAHS ini’ve been hearing from several very reliable sources that there will be an exclusive elite gala entertainment event hosted by the watch tower organization, featuring specially chosen jehovah’s witnesses of outstanding talent as well as spiritual reputation, at the sony centre (formerly called the o’keefe centre) in toronto, ontario (canada) as a special “after hours” addition to the 2017 special international convention.. those chosen have to meet very strict criteria, including, not so much technical and popular talents, but, rather, their spiritual maturity which can be easily and practically related to by the audience (i.e., degree of conformity – you know what i mean!).
a notable and very well-known professional “super star” from some other country (i don’t know which one) who has achieved highly recognized and popular talent was surprisingly not chosen to participate in the extra entertainment program, whereas other performers with rather ho-hum musical abilities ended up being selected, ostensibly for their altruistic and “theocratic” qualities.
(something tells me that there is going to be some jealousy and indignant, hard feelings over this rather authoritarian, arbitrary selection process.
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Dealing with Elderly Parents Who Still Believe the jw Religion is the truth
by lancelink ini left the religion back in 2008 right after my mother died,( the total lack of natural love/ affection was the final straw for me).. but my dad has become more and more focused on doing the wt bidding.. it just amazes me how he gushes on and on about the last days, his new bible studies, and meeting parts .
but yet he makes no effort to have any type of relationship with his grandkids, there are 5 of them , non are witnesses.
they are the children from several different sisters of mine, and myself.. so how do you deal with the witness stuff always being presented in conversations?.
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ToesUp
Yes, our family complains constantly that non JW family members never contact them yet they never reach out themselves. Our JW family has all the problems yet non JW family have none? Really? The non JW's still have the everyday problems JW's have, JW's just dismiss them.
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What "Rules" Did The Elders In Your KH Make?
by minimus insome congregations were known as liberal and others were considered very conservative.
back in the 1970s a nearby congregation made all speakers who gave public talks a white shirt to wear.
if a speaker came in wearing anything but white they were brought into the library and were given a white shirt!
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ToesUp
I think that all WT will have left are all the rule making ass@oles. I hope they all enjoy each other's company! They are going to devour each other. Lol
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What "Rules" Did The Elders In Your KH Make?
by minimus insome congregations were known as liberal and others were considered very conservative.
back in the 1970s a nearby congregation made all speakers who gave public talks a white shirt to wear.
if a speaker came in wearing anything but white they were brought into the library and were given a white shirt!
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ToesUp
They all have their little soap boxes. One Elder had a fixation with sitting in the front rows at the KH, so he would shove all the back seats forward so no one could sit there. I loved that one when my kids were small. Always fun to sit up front with a whiny 2 year old. Asshats!
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2017 International Regional Convention, Toronto – Entertainment at Sony Centre
by SAHS ini’ve been hearing from several very reliable sources that there will be an exclusive elite gala entertainment event hosted by the watch tower organization, featuring specially chosen jehovah’s witnesses of outstanding talent as well as spiritual reputation, at the sony centre (formerly called the o’keefe centre) in toronto, ontario (canada) as a special “after hours” addition to the 2017 special international convention.. those chosen have to meet very strict criteria, including, not so much technical and popular talents, but, rather, their spiritual maturity which can be easily and practically related to by the audience (i.e., degree of conformity – you know what i mean!).
a notable and very well-known professional “super star” from some other country (i don’t know which one) who has achieved highly recognized and popular talent was surprisingly not chosen to participate in the extra entertainment program, whereas other performers with rather ho-hum musical abilities ended up being selected, ostensibly for their altruistic and “theocratic” qualities.
(something tells me that there is going to be some jealousy and indignant, hard feelings over this rather authoritarian, arbitrary selection process.
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It happened in the US in 2014 in Atlanta. They worshipped the delegates.. It was believable to see how regular JW's where treated like Royalty.
Here is the show they put on https://youtu.be/_d41Qmrkbu8
Keep in mind 1000's of hours where spent in getting ready. I guess a talent show for elite Witnesses is more important then the Ministry?
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The denial of 1975 when and how did they go about it.
by Crazyguy ini was pretty young in 1975, all i remember was a few complaining at the hall after and those at the door that razed us over it.
does anyone remember how they went about denying it and when this started.
i do remember a scripture in psalms about people being mighty and living longer so this was used.
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ToesUp
"Like everything else in WT land it was a brazen denial of the reality and facts."
Watchtower's "theocratic warfare"...aka...lying.
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Baby update and quick hello.
by Darkknight757 ini wanted to take a moment to give a quick baby update.
my last post mentioned that we lost twin b at 17 weeks but twin a is doing well so far.
we are 25 weeks tomorrow and a week past the point of viability so we are starting to get really exited for this new adventure in our lives.
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ToesUp
Wow....lookin good! Hugs!
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Watchtower Study June 18 from April 2017 issue
by BluesBrother inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.
the judge of all the earth always does what is right.
intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?
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ToesUp
Great post. So this guy was shunned for getting married? NICE! WT calls these things done to the rank and file "injustices", we call them pure 100% abuse. Most in WT land just don't get it and never will. If these ones want to remain in Jahs org (cult), let em. I choose not to participate in it anymore. What a relief it has been!
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What is the biggest sexual scandal to hit the top of JW tree ?
by Chook inelders ,co ,do ,branch overseers ,gb ,missionaries has "sinful" lust got the better of them..
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" I truly hope someday bad Karma comes and bites these WT leaders in the ass."
I am a firm believer in Karma. I have witnessed it over and over in my lifetime. People who hurt others eventually get caught. They get comfortable with getting away with it and eventually slip up. It's coming for WT. WT will never go away. They are re branding but their past is coming back to bite em (i.e. denying 1975 was ever promoted by WT). There are recordings of these talks and they are online. Kim and Mike have a new You Tube with all the recordings (at the end of their You Tube). WT can run but can't hide.
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Russian BOE letters of instruction - meetings and $$$ matter$
by OrphanCrow inthese letters can be found in the original russian on jwforum.eu.. i will provide links but also copy and paste the english translation that was provided for each one.. this first letter was dated may 21, 2017 and concerns instructions on how to handle the donation$.
(*bolding is mine).
we should not make the same boxes for all groups.
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ToesUp
Follow the money!!! WT has no shame!!!